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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#327: Dec 12th 2021 at 10:46:21 PM

I always did wonder if Jet and Faye remained as a team after Spike seemingly or if they went their separate ways too.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#328: Dec 12th 2021 at 10:55:00 PM

Out of all of them, Jet's the only one who truly manages to find closure concerning his past baggage. He'll probably be alright after the series.

Faye otoh...Regaining her past brought her nothing since it was all long gone. And the closest thing she had to a new family is also gone. Her future is more uncertain. She's a hard luck woman, after all.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#329: Dec 13th 2021 at 7:11:54 AM

I'm with Jovian that I prefer to think Spike is still alive. Future medicine is insane after all.

But I do like to think it wasn't so easy for Spike to pick himself up after this anymore.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#330: Dec 13th 2021 at 7:49:46 AM

Yeah, I could see something like "he survives but permanently scarred". He managed to move on, but not unscathed.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#331: Dec 13th 2021 at 8:20:25 AM

Which would also fit in with the overarching theme of the damage your past does to you. Faye and Jet have not come out of their histories unscathed after all.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#332: Dec 13th 2021 at 8:33:50 AM

I mean all things considered Jet seems better off than the others. He never really brings up his past outside of his focus episodes, and he doesn't seem too hurt by much of it until Spike leaves. Unlike Faye who was in the middle of an existential crisis.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#333: Dec 13th 2021 at 10:55:56 AM

[up]×4

It would have been hard though. Even if the Syndicate goons don't finish him of they have no reason to help him either.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 13th 2021 at 3:59:14 PM

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#334: Dec 13th 2021 at 2:45:42 PM

What did y'all think of Ed's departure?

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#335: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:15:42 PM

Spin off material,that's the feeling I got at the time, quirky character and their dog

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#336: Dec 14th 2021 at 2:28:57 PM

I did bother me because he just sort of....walk away from that, even today I feel odd, maybe because you dont expect chararter to just move on from that.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#337: Dec 14th 2021 at 4:28:57 PM

“She” walked away. Ed is a girl.

Edited by M84 on Dec 14th 2021 at 8:29:21 PM

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#338: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:50:20 PM

Let's not go there.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#339: Dec 14th 2021 at 8:21:31 PM

Going where? Faye outright says that Ed's a girl at the end of the episode where she's introduced.

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#340: Dec 15th 2021 at 6:21:06 AM

Pretty much,but somehow doesn't stop viewers from being confused over Ed's gender

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#342: Dec 15th 2021 at 5:57:26 PM

Technically Word of God didn't actually confirm that.

CBR did an article on this.

CBR 12/4/2021: Cowboy Bebop: What Is Radical Edward's Gender?

In a 2017 interview with IGN, after the interviewer pointed out Ed as a potential exception to Watanabe's pattern of teaming two men with one woman, Watanabe said of Ed, "Its gender is meaningless, we don’t need it." The interviewer then asked, "Why did you decide for Ed to be non-binary and have no gender, or have their gender be ambiguous?" Watanabe didn't explicitly point to the former or the latter interpretation but instead said, "I wanted to create a character that surpasses humanity. I personally think that he might not even be human, someone from outer space." Note that gendered pronouns aren't as commonly used in Japanese, so this "he" could be a quirk of translation.

And while Edward is portrayed by a non-binary actor in the live-action adaptation, said actor has referred to Edward with feminine pronouns.

The live-action Cowboy Bebop has only introduced Ed through a series of hints and a controversial final scene, but this version also seems to be leaving it ambiguous whether Ed is a girl or nonbinary. A non-binary actor, Eden Perkins, has been cast in the role, but this doesn't necessarily mean the character is being written as nonbinary. In interviews, Perkins has referred to the character with "she/her" pronouns; nonbinary people can use any pronouns, but the language does add to further ambiguity regarding the adaptation's intentions with the already ambiguous character.

Edited by M84 on Dec 15th 2021 at 10:03:24 PM

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#343: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:20:16 PM

Ed explicitly refers to herself as a girl in the movie.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#344: Dec 16th 2021 at 9:10:23 AM

Then Ed's dad was like "my son... or was it daughter?"[lol]

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#345: Dec 16th 2021 at 9:55:53 AM

Would Ed even care if you called them a boy or a girl?

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#346: Dec 16th 2021 at 9:57:46 AM

Ed would only care if you called them someone else other than Edward.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#347: Dec 16th 2021 at 11:41:05 AM

Also M84 is right, for some reason I mistake her as boy, probably because ed sound men.

So yeah, my fault, brain fart here.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#348: Dec 25th 2021 at 11:25:20 PM

Toonami is doing a Bebop marathon for New Years.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#349: Dec 26th 2021 at 2:55:49 AM

Huh. That's going to be quite a Toonami marathon.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#350: Dec 26th 2021 at 8:31:40 AM

Fitting since Tom is voiced by Steve Blum, the English dub VA for Spike.

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