Is that cake frosting?
In the first case, the data
says what it says. All measurements have error bars, of course; but unless you can present huge evidence supporting this claim, I am going to have to dismiss it as utterly preposterous. In Swaziland, just to make the most obvious example, 61% of all deaths were caused by HIV/Aids and HIV prevalence about 25—29 year old women is at a mind boggling 56%. In these circumstances, discouraging the use of condoms because of some (badly thought out, by the way, at least in my opinion) theological point is... well, I am having trouble finding the right adjective here, so just assume that I wrote the harshest one you know of and let's go with that.
In the second case, I do not see what this has to do with the issue at hand. Sure, testing needs to be more widely available — not only in order to learn more about the exact extent of the crisis, but also to prevent people from infecting others without knowing it. But the crisis is there, and it is huge, of this there can be no doubt.
edited 21st Jul '11 1:24:30 AM by Carciofus
But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
KVLFON
Mhhhmmhmhm, Benedict's words seem like they can be spun around into a claim that the matter calls for a policy more comprehensive than just giving out rubbers. This way it gets some merit, I'm told the results are best in those places where condoms are used in league with abstinence programs and faithfulness to partner. Note I'm not saying it isn't done anyway.
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As for my last post: that's why I called them "fucks". You know, I'm fine with saving-for-marriage, I'm fine with no contraception, but I'm not fucking going to believe in a religion that fucking reduces me to a damn breeder bull, and that's what some bastards seem to be saying. And they sprinkle it with "Jesus loves you" and "God wants it". Fuckers. Perhaps their God is a sicko perv who just wants to see his litle playthings fuck. Mine isn't. Only the fucking problem is they tell me they're the ones right.
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"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
Silence Is Golden
@Carfocius: regarding the desirablility of pre-marriage yniversal chastisty, you might want to read what this book says about the implications of stricter, more-emphasized-by-society moral codes.
@Suzy: Uh..to e fair. The Catholic Church and Religious fundies tend to rarely be the same thing. Fundies are mostly catholic despising protestants.