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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54601: Oct 13th 2015 at 8:34:55 AM

I agree with you, but CRPG players tend to hate having their immersion broken.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#54602: Oct 13th 2015 at 9:02:10 AM

Well, I don't really like seeing things as "fake", but companion approval is hardly something I want to do blind.

Anyway, if you aren't able to unlock Blackwall's companion quest, do you just want us to tell you?

Also, I haven't gotten this far, but I think that Kieran is supposed to run off at this point in the story. Has this happened to you yet?

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joergenjetsam from The city of constant rain Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#54603: Oct 13th 2015 at 9:44:30 AM

CRPG? Does C stand for choice?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54604: Oct 13th 2015 at 9:48:00 AM

Computer. Bioware primarily makes Computer RP Gs.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54605: Oct 13th 2015 at 9:50:24 AM

[up] [up][up] Maybe, I dunno. It probably is revealed when I go talk to Morrigan. It hadn't happened before What Pride Has Wrought.

So I guess exiling the Wardens is less Blackwall Greatly Disapproves and more Blackwall SUPREMELY Disapproves. I only had to get one Artifact, one Greatly Approves, to unlock Explanations and Revelations.

Fuck this game.

He was Orlesian? He sure got rid of his accent pretty well. He's certainly right that, in other circumstances, what he did might have gtten him a medal and made him a hero. Well, almost. A couple problems. If he truly believed in the righteousness f what he did, he wouldn't have deceived his men. Also he did it, not because he believed Gaspard would make a better ruler and create a stronger country, but for some money. Both those things kind of kills his argument about how it could have been justifiable or noble.

Yet he has the gall to disapprove of me letting Celene die and supporting Gaspard. Gaspard wasn't even the one who had him do this.

I let him rot. Well until he's hanged. Then I guess he'll rot some more. No great loss to anyone.

Of course this was an Alternate Universe. In my canon, I guess Tommy boy gets to live out the rest of his days. If only Main Universe Rhaenyra knew what a piece of shit he was.

I wish I could just tell him to leave like you can Sera. In fact, my "real" Inquisitor is going to go do that now. The war is over, we don;'t need her anymore.

edited 13th Oct '15 9:51:46 AM by Nikkolas

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54606: Oct 13th 2015 at 9:52:42 AM

You reacted exactly like I thought you would.

edited 13th Oct '15 9:52:52 AM by VeryMelon

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54607: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:25:04 AM

Meh. That's my only reaction to all of this.

I'm more interested in Cole's quest which I'll be doing next session. Maybe I should also talk to Iron Bull. I haven't used or talked to him in...forever.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54609: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:32:23 AM

I haven't done anything for Bull. He never asked me to. At least I don't think he did.

edited 13th Oct '15 10:32:40 AM by Nikkolas

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#54610: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:34:14 AM

Do Bull's quest (assuming you can) before Trespasser. Well, I suppose you can only do it before Trespasser, but you get the idea. If you can do it, do it. I forget what all you have to do to trigger it.

As for Reiner, if you take him out of jail you get to Sit in Judgement and personally determine his fate.

But yeah, you reacted pretty much exactly as predicted.

BTW, also nice to see another Josephine-loving Lavellan.

edited 13th Oct '15 10:37:44 AM by TheAirman

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54611: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:38:29 AM

Given that Trespasser is kind of like a real epilogue, or just a short sequel, I would imagine you have to do all companion quests before it.

I'll go chat up Bull first thing when I start the game again.

Also something I noticed when I recruited the Wardens, Cole Greatly Disapproves. His exact words were "but they hurt people."

Looking it up on Wiki, Cole, Cassandra, Solas, Vivienne - basically everyone who's opinion matters to me - approved of me exiling them.

I did the right thing.

EDIT:

The fact there are people who DON'T love Josephine is baffling. She's just so sweet and funny and interesting. I pretty much fell in love with her from the start.

edited 13th Oct '15 10:39:31 AM by Nikkolas

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54612: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:41:30 AM

I've seen Josephine called boring and uninteresting before.

edited 13th Oct '15 10:41:46 AM by VeryMelon

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#54613: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:48:21 AM

I quite like her. I suppose there are perils to being a new character who's also a noncombatant.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54614: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:49:00 AM

I like her too. I romanced her once with a Male Mage.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54615: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:50:17 AM

So I saw that Anora has voice credits on DA Wiki.

I've dealt with her a couple times via War Table, including the absurd Delicate Negotiations which took over 10 hours to complete, but when do I actually see her in person in this game?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54616: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:52:14 AM

You only see her at the end of "In Hushed Whispers" if you decided to recruit the mages and she's either married to Alistair, married to the Warden, or ruling alone.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54617: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:53:41 AM

Oh well that's bullshit. I gotta look that up on YT.

Thanks for telling me, though.

Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#54618: Oct 13th 2015 at 10:56:34 AM

Both those things kind of kills his argument about how it could have been justifiable or noble.

The whole point of Blackwall's quest isn't that what he did was in any way justifiable, and I don't think he even tries to defend it. Blackwall pretty much wants the be executed for this and finally face his crimes.

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#54619: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:03:40 AM

The whole point of Blackwall's quest isn't that what he did was in any way justifiable, and I don't think he even tries to defend it. Blackwall pretty much wants the be executed for this and finally face his crimes.

Yep. Nothing about his crime is justifiable. It's actually kind of refreshing in its simplicity. He wasn't stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving family or secretly doing the right thing all along. His crime looks like the actions of a selfish murderer because he was, in fact, a selfish murderer. There is no twist to it.

edited 13th Oct '15 11:04:07 AM by TobiasDrake

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#54620: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:03:56 AM

One thing: if you want to unlock Iron Bull's mission, then you might want to consider killing a High Dragon or two with him in the party, then talk to him a few times at the tavern. Once you've discussed Seheron with him and met with the Chargers, you should be good to go.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54621: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:09:09 AM

I'll look into that then. I hope we're ready for these dragons.

Also looking up the end of In Hushed Whispers to see King Alistair or Queen Anora, everyone HATES the mages. lol Holy shit. I thought you all said they were brainwashed. Cass and most f the party I saw, as well as our lovely monarchs, don't seem to believe they wee forced into anything. As opposed to the Templars, who you just kind of absorb into the Inquisition, the mages can just be flatout prisoners. They're all dangerous criminal scum.

edited 13th Oct '15 11:09:57 AM by Nikkolas

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54622: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:11:10 AM

I don't remember anyone saying they were brainwashed, just sold out by Fiona into slavery.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54623: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:13:04 AM

I could have sworn someone told me Fiona at least was mind controlled. I don't have a clue, it's just what I was told.

Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#54624: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:14:26 AM

When people say they were brainwashed, they're generally referring to the attack on Haven. Actually agreeing to go into the servitude of a magister is a different matter.

I don't know if the game actually mentions them being brainwashed, though.

edited 13th Oct '15 11:14:56 AM by Lavaeolus

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#54625: Oct 13th 2015 at 11:15:43 AM

Yes, I'm fairly certain they were of sound mind at that point (though I still sympathize regardless).

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