Sonic the Hedgehog film series general

Case in point; the novelization for Spider-Man actually references a lot of characters from the rest of the Marvel universe... only for No Way Home to confirm later that, no, Tobey!Spidey and his rogues are the only superbeings in their world (or at the very least, there are no Avengers, which still contradicts the novelization).

Point is, don't always trust the novelizations... though I do think Longclaw is actually dead.

Edited by lbssb on Jan 7th 2022 at 9:41:31 AM

This is also true. That's the beauty of being an unimportant character. You're still in the toolbox to be used however the plot sees fit.

Sonic is lonely before he meets Tom because he was ordered to remain alone. Not because he was traumatized by seeing Longclaw die in front of him. Because, again, he didn't see Longclaw die in front of him.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 7th 2022 at 9:42:14 AM

Of course, Longclaw is very much an example of Never Found the Body. There's always a significant chance of a reveal that she has survived.

Sonic also may think she's dead, but he couldn't know either way.

Would be neat to see her return.

I have a feeling they'll tie her in somehow. They seem to be highlighting the owl imagery in the Master Emerald scene. And there's the whole unresolved incident with the echidnas that they'll probably tie to Knuckles in some way.

I'm honestly not sure if Longclaw is dead or alive. But, based on the hints in the second movie, she might be alive or they might explore more about her role in Sonic's life.

Robot Longclaw!

aka she's a badnick now

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 8th 2022 at 6:58:59 PM

Robot Longclaw... Sonic will be an emotional wreck by that point!

In a different version of the movie's opening, Longclaw eventually died of old age. So if she didn't die to the echidnas she'd be dead by this point.

Would they still use Longclaw's original death in the deleted scene in the sequel or was that just something they decided to not use in the end?

There's a good chance they won't,deleted scenes don't typically get reused

x4: Don't you put that evil on us!

I'd be surprised if either the video game version of Robotnik making animals pilot his Badniks or the comic book version of Robotnik roboticizing animals into Badniks makes it into the films, honestly. The movies seem content with having Robotnik's Badniks simply be robots.

So, as dramatic as it would be, it seems unlikely that we'll get any sort of Longclaw Badnik.

I didn't know that until now, but it's worth noting that that means they were originally going to have her explicitly die onscreen and then changed their minds.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 8th 2022 at 7:25:47 AM

I don't think Longclaw is coming back in Sonic 2. Not because she's definitely dead, I just don't think they are going to touch on that.

They are slowly moving away from the "Sonic is in our world" trappings and if the second film does well enough, a third film could well be set fully in Sonics world where we will discover Longclaw's fate.

Always liked the theory that she was the one who sent Tails. Sonic is only a teenager and assuming the echidnas didn't kill her, Longclaw seemed pretty spry to have just died of old age in the interim.

I'm not seeing any signs they are moving away from Sonic being trapped in our world. Could anyone elaborate on that?

The first film had a human as The Deutaragonist and outside of the intro and the post credits scene, no other animal characters.

This film we've now got Sonic, Tails and Knuckles all playing a part and from the tone of the trailers, Tom's role seems to be less played up.

So it's gradually moving away from being Sonic in "our" world and moving towards a more game-like setting, IMO.

I feel like that the human characters might still be involved either way, even if their roles start diminishing in each film.

I know this has been said before-

-checks posts-

Oh wait, it hasn't yet?

Anyhow, I'm just gonna say holy FUCK, Knuckles' "that line" is just so damn awesome. I don't even know nor care about Knuckles that much, but that scene alone was more than enough to get me so hyped!

Exactly! I just loved that part of the trailer! I hope they treat Knuckles right in this movie!

Well, if he doesn't get at least one moment of comedic stumbling...they will not have managed it.

There's this very cute tweet for the Nick Wild Card.

As usual, I like to look at the production crew for upcoming films. While we do have some people returning like the Director, writers, a few producers, composer, costume designer, and Tyson Hesse, who not only designed the Sonic characters but is also now the storyboard supervisor, there are few replacements and additions (like Hesse's previous mentioned storyboard supervisor role) from the original film.

For Production Designer, we have Luke Freeborn. As you can tell by his website, he has done art department work for years. However, his first role as Production Designer on a major movie was the live action segments of Spongebob Squarepants: Sponge Out of Water.

For Cinematographer, we have Brandon Trost. His resume as Director of Photography includes Crank: High Voltage, the second Ghost Rider film, a few Seth Rogen and James Franco films like This is the End, both Neighbors films, The Interview and The Disaster Artist... and the film adaptation of Dear Evan Hansen, though his work wasn't sighted as one of the bad things. He also directed that Seth Rogen vehicle An American Pickle.

For Editor, we have Jim May. Not often we only have one editor on these kind of films, so I tried to find films where he was solo editing. I got the 2007 Hitcher remake, Non-Stop, Goosebumps, and Bloodshot. He also edited the first Chronicles of Narnia film, both GI Joe Films, The A-Team, TMNT: Out of the Shadows, and Little Monster (the zombie Horror Comedy starring Lupita Nyong'o) with other people.

While Pat Casey & Josh Miller return to writing duties and came up with the story, they got help with the screenplay by John Wittington. He co-wrote the Lego Batman and Ninjago movie (both have a ton of writing credits), some time travel romantic comedy film called When We First Met, and the "Car" and "Goat" episodes of Green Eggs and Ham. I'm guessing he was brought in to punch up the screenplay (at least 33% of it if he is being credited) since Casey & Miller have the ampersand from working together while Wittington just has "and".

Edited by DS9guy on Jan 18th 2022 at 3:39:27 AM

"Punch up the screenplay?" Like make the story edgier or something?