X-Men '97 (Disney +): Continuation of X-Men: The Animated Series

The only talk of real life bigots is how real life bigots DO already think and act exactly like they do in X-Men, to the point they can literally see the similarities between mutants and minorities(and use this to justify exterminating them.)

Literally right on the previous page you can see someone ( specifically) say people who point out a lot of mutants are basically walking bombs is exactly like how far-right bigots discriminate against trans people, even specifically citing current year issues like what's going on in Florida.

And you're kinda proving my point by responding to my argument with what amounts to "nuh uh" rather than any actual comeback.

Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 23rd 2024 at 9:48:55 AM

…So I'm just here for Cyclops being cool for once.

Oh yeah it's great, now all we need is a great X-Men game.

Which Insomniac during the leaks was revealed to have one in development after their Wolverine game.

Though I am side-eying then a bit cause the leaks for Wolverine reveal they are doing a Wolverine and Jean romance, which opens up concerns X-Men might have the love triangle.

Mutants can be walking time bombs, but they are time bombs with rights then. That is the thing. Reaching a balance where both aspects of the equation are thought about.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed and has been addressed repeatedly in the last several pages.

Yes, mutants have superpowers and are dangerous. No that doesn't justify pre-emptively criminalising or registering them before they do anything wrong.

The registration act is not the same as the census. One is an every 10 years survey for everyone used to gather macro level information about the whole population. The other is an always on registration to target people for excessive law enforcement and discrimination.

No-one described anyone in this thread as a real life bigot for their arguments about mutants. That's not what OmegaRadiance said.

Edited by dcutter2 on Apr 23rd 2024 at 5:56:05 PM

Yeah exactly. In-story the whole mutant/human/sentinel conflict is meant to be complicated and nuanced. You can't dumb it down or you start creating lots of issues.

Whatever, I said my piece.

Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 23rd 2024 at 9:55:17 AM

x5 I’m not saying that at all, Im repeating what an Actual Republican said

In the words of the Florida Republican himself:

“I’m looking at society today and it’s like I’m watching an ‘X-men’ movie with people, when you watch the X-men movies from Marvel comics, it’s like we have mutants living among us on Planet Earth, and you know, some people don’t like that, but that’s a fact,” Webster said. “We have people that live among us today on Planet Earth that are happy to display themselves as if they were mutants from another planet.”

And that was when he wasn’t literally demonizing them by calling trans people demons and Imps.

Edit: There’s also the fact that Sentinels and the Friends of Humanity are NOT nuanced. 97’ has been unsubtle in depicting the bigotry and dehumanization methods humans have used for ages to justify the attacks on Mutants, and bigotry is always a pipeline to expanding one’s bigotry towards other groups beyond the one you start out hating.

Just as Magneto himself and his plans have at numerous points become just as aweful as what he fights against. Something 97’ is trying to have him correct and honor Xavier by doing better.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 23rd 2024 at 10:05:25 AM

I’m gonna take it he never actually watched or read anything X men. Mutants aren’t from another planet, no clue where he got that.

Sadly I can perfectly accept possibility he did watch or read something X Men and unironicaly believed Friends of Humanity and people like them are good guys.

Edited by EmperorGeode on Apr 23rd 2024 at 10:02:53 AM

They call themselves "Friends of Humanity" but they don't even have friends.

Or humanity.

And I haven't seen much "of" from them, either.

Phew. Finally all caught up.

I don't know what it is, but no matter what adaptation of Marvel I'm watching, I simply can never get myself invested in the Space side of the setting. I always find it so uninteresting. XD

I was a bit disappointed in the space stuff as well, but mostly because I was more interested in seeing the aftermath of Genosha instead of jumping into a brand new plotline.

I did think you if you combined the Storm plot with lifedeath pt1 you probably had one episode there.

The space aspects of X-Men have always kinda suffered for feeling very disconnected from the main cyberpunkish man-mutant-machine conflict of the series. The Shi'ar and such frequently feel like they're from an entirely different setting, one that doesn't really coexist well with the stuff happening the in the day-to-day of the X-Men on Earth. Just about the only exception is the Phalanx, who have managed to work pretty well into the lore by being portrayed in a very eldritch Mechanical Abomination light and tied into the Nature vs. Technology aspects.

Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 23rd 2024 at 11:01:17 AM

Absolutely, I'm not sure why they split it like that.

I like alien mutants, like Broo and Warlock whose mutation is that they have empathy which does not exist in their species.

Its interesting to explore how the X-Gene shapes even intergalactic life.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 23rd 2024 at 11:26:32 AM

Maybe they didn't have enough stuff for the Motendo plot (the weakest part of the series so far honestly) so they spliced in part of Storm's arc.

Edited by GNinja on Apr 23rd 2024 at 6:26:35 PM

Broo and Warlock are both some of the rare exceptions to the issue we just talked about. They're both wonderful.

Motendo's themes and character work with Jubilee and Roberto could easily filled an entire episode, I would have thought.

Is there an in-universe explanation for why Morph looks like Voldemort these days? He didn't look like that in the 1992 cartoon.

I would love to see Cypher and Warlock in something.

They are great characters.

Well, given what happened, is anyone surprised Rogue's pissed? Can't wait to see the context for it.

Wonder if she's on a mission or blowing off steam? Or both.

Not yet, but it could be by choice.