Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League

This is why live-service games are so appealing to executives. They offer the hope of good quarterly earnings without having to spend years developing a whole new game.

Disgusted, but not surprised

Yeah, smart executives know to back projects like the Playstation Spider-Man games.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

Tbf the second game barely made back it's budget from what wr see per leaks and it had sky high sales. I think the industry is just unfortunately over exerting itself in general

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

The Insomniac Spider-Man game mean? Did I read that was mostly because Disney demanded a ridiculous license fee for spidey?

Nah Alot of it went to salaries, bonuses and benefits for their own employee.

Even We also know they went over budget by 30 million to the point they realized they way overdid it.

Edit: Also yes the budget of the second game is 3X more than the first game. How that happened I have no clue but like that's bizarre

Note this isn't an Insomniac issue so much as a AAA industry wide issue like here. Stuff has just ballooned to the point we're you need sales figures in sky high levels to keep any profit

Edited by miraculous on Apr 9th 2024 at 4:15:54 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

Which only makes live service models even more tempting. The problem is that the live service model is a glutted market.

Disgusted, but not surprised

Yeah, it's def a Triple AAA industry issue.

And hey, at least the smart executives who did back Spider-Man PS are more sucessful than the ones who backed Suicide Squad, kill the Arkham verse.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

I was being exaggerating, of course, but that's the crux of the issue.
You have execs who can't think long term, or course correct when needed or look back at what happened in the past and see how obviously would be a bad idea, making decisions. The result is that we end up with a failure of game in 2024 that attempt to synergize with a bad movie from 10 years ago. In a genre/market that's obviously not at height of its popularity.
When the exec is smarter, they make a Spider-Man game that just attempt to be a good game and keep the synergy to making a Miles game when they see that Miles hit mainstream notoriety.

Not that the execs see said Spidey game as a full blown success due to the high budget.

Disgusted, but not surprised

Yeah like I said, those execs are making more money than dumbass WB execs.

The high cost for Spider Man is paltry compared to how much Suicide Squad lost.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

@Red Yeah, insomniac execs are certainly richer than WB and Rocksteady execs.

You can't kill art.

Rocksteady might legit go under after this massive failure.

And WB has had failure after failure after failure. Even ignoring their relatively successful Harry Potter game.

So smart businesspeople know to invest in stuff like Spider Man single player games over shitty multiplayer live service.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

True, but that's a issue due to the budget, which is a problem with AAA games generally getting too big for their own good. Also, they can expect the game to have good legs over time, since anyone can just pick it at any time. Unlike Suicide Squad, that will stop making money sooner than later if it's reception is any indication. (which is a factor the studios rushing to make life service games forget to consider.)

Edited by Smoker130 on Apr 9th 2024 at 3:10:07 PM

I'm not saying making live service games is a good idea. There's a whole bunch of reasons why rushing into making one thinking it's easy money is a bad idea. Just that it's easy to see why executives might be tempted by them.

Disgusted, but not surprised

A big problem that executives who are so obsessed with Live Service games don't seem to realize is that unless you strike it rich quick Live Service games can quickly become money black-holes do to the constant upkeep they need. Of course the biggest problem that executives have when it comes to Live Service games is that they don't seem to be able to consider that they aren't going to strike it rich with their Live Service. It kind of feels like they are in a gamblers mindset, "Just one more live service. This one will make it big, I just know it."

I know. Should have made it clearer that the last part of my comment wasn't a answer to yours.

So, how are we supposed to belief that 13 Brainiacs, 12 of whom were successful in their goals in their universes, including brainwashing heroes like the Flash and Superman to serve their goals, are all going to get their asses kicked by a group of people whose 'powers' consist of shooting shit?

Maybe the Superman from At Earth's End had the right idea?

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Apr 10th 2024 at 5:21:35 AM

So one of the bosses should be twin clones of Hitler?

That'd be better than Brainiac, take # whatever

"That we continue to persist at all is a testament to our faith in one another."

Same way we're expected to believe the SUICIDE SQUAD can beat the JUSTICE LEAGUE: plot contrivance.

At least in Injustice 1, it was handwaved that the normal heroes like Green Arrow and Batman take these pills that toughens their bodies so that they don't get flattened immediately by the Injustice characters, and Superman is the one to take down Injustice Superman. There's no excuse like that here.

They should be historically accurate and add the person who killed Hitler in real life to the Squad... Hitler.

Multiverse Hitler, to be more specific.

"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably

The game being a looter shooter really hampered everything because everything is ultimately solved by guns.

Ironically if it was more of a hero shooter it prolly would have been better cause that mean characters would have more unique move-sets.

Imagine if say Metallo was playable and his powers include firing kryptonite rays blasts and chest beams.

Also on that subject, the fact this game takes place in Metropolis and we don't get a single Superman villain on the team, for shame.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."