The Scream Movies Thread

Just saw Scream 5.

Yeah, losing Neve/Sydney is a bad idea. The premise and ongoing shtick is that these copycat killings, a very real phenomenon, keep happening to her.

The baton pass here might be ok, but with the added weight of "Neve wasn't being offered enough money" I don't think it's doing Scream 6 any favors. And bringing back Hayden Panetierre who herself is a pretty expensive and well-known actress? Weird choice.

I liked Scream 5 - it was a better transition point and ended on a looming shot of the original villains' house with two ambulances pointed in opposite directions, one with Gale and Sydney and the other with the new girls. We also had a tribute to Wes Craven, a few actually.

It doesn't feel like an "ending" but then again its a "requel." After what happened with Halloween Ends I'm sort of hoping that this franchise ends with 5.

That or just straight up reboots.

Panetierre hasn't worked in years. I'm sure it makes her more amenable to whatever rate they want to pay.

I think bringing Kirby back is pandering and dumb. I know they wrote but didn't film her survival, but I don't care.

Honestly I think they have to bring Kirby back because there aren't that many franchise mainstays left. What are they gonna do, kill Sydney Gale? They just killed Dewey of all people.

Scream VI teaser trailer.

Are they gonna adapt the 'Stu starts a cult of ghostfaces ' idea?.

Edited by Snoketrope on Dec 14th 2022 at 9:27:44 AM

I hope not. It's an incredibly stupid idea that doesn't even fit the reality the films have built.

I'm surprised 6 come out so quickly considering how much time was between 3 and 4 and then 4 and 5.

Full trailer for VI.

The cinematography looks wonderful.

The new ghostface seems just..a little bit supervillain-ish?

Yea, Ghostface seems to be just a little too much in that trailer.

I hope they make fun of Jason Takes Manhattan at some point for not taking advantage of New York as a setting as well as Halloween Kills because why else would they have this over-dramatic dialogue if not that?

, Ghostface isn't exactly known for subtlety to begin with.

There's not being subtle and there's chasing victims into a store full of people. The whole thing just seems to be turned up a notch or two.

Of all the suspects, I'm sure Tara is not a killer.

But it's not because in the trailer she's still being hunted (Since killers usually come in duos anyway), but because she's too short.

I mean, Stu looked too tall to be Ghostface, and he still ended up being Ghostface.

The one playing the killer in 4 was five feet tall and doubled by the six-foot Dane Farwell.

They don't care about bullshitting that sort of thing.

Honestly it is kind of hard to figure out the killer ahead of time. They clearly don't try to hire stuntpeople that match the killers' body types, there's usually two killers so both are usually in "danger" at least once before, and the actual motive rant at the end usually has a lot of information that the audience never hears beforehand.

Edited by Hawkeye86 on Feb 23rd 2023 at 10:14:19 AM

One of my favorite consistent things about the Scream series is that while he does typically get his/her victim eventually, Ghostface isn't a horrifying Implacable Man grimly stomping forwards like death itself a la Jason or Michael Myers. Ghostface is super placable.

The Ghostfaces get fucked up in some of these chases, victims beat the shit out of them, and they're also super clumsy sometimes.

Granted, that is implicitly a bit more unsettling, since it makes Ghostface feel more like what a real life killer would be like.

As Randy said in Scream 3, You've got a serial killer who'll be superhuman. Stabbing him won't work. Shooting him won't work. Basically in the third one you got cryogenically freeze his head, or blow him up.

Not sure how accurate that was but still

I can't wait for Scream VI. The trailers make it look so good.

*2. Ironically, it's always seemed to me that a slasher villain becomes less scary the more super-human they make him.

If a villainous slasher is just a normal human who uses preparation and surprise attacks to be a threat, is scary because it gives you the impression of someone who could exist.

But if you start putting super-human feats on him, that factor is lost.

Edited by LucienRen on Feb 27th 2023 at 3:01:59 AM

Ghostface has always operated in an over the top movie world and a very relatable, "killer next door" sense, all at once.

Scream 5 has an excellent example as one of the Ghostfaces is supposed to be a 5'4 young woman (maybe a teenager, I forget) who is able to heft a grown man over her head.

Typically when they're wearing the mask, Ghostface is just operating on a higher level as a kind of boogeyman brought to life, quick, strong, and able to vanish the second they're out of your sight.

It's interesting to consider "Ghostface" as it's own "character" or persona that all the different killers adopt for various reasons.

Not quite sure how to describe what I'm getting at beyond wondering to what Ghostface exists beyond being a mask worn by multiple different killers.

You could consider Ghostface to be an allegorical character representing the general capacity for petty human cruelty. Pretty much the one thing every Ghostface killer has in common is that they're sadistic murderers killing people for really petty reasons.

I think there's room for both.

tldr - I don't think a more superhuman killer necessarily makes it less scary. Its just about what contemporary evil or paranoia is behind said killer.

Some people who are massive gun rights advocates will never find the earlier Ghostface killers scary because of the perception that they are ordinary men in costumes, and could easily be blown away if anybody in the movie had common sense or basic competence with a firearm. And, to be fair, most of the situations/killings in the early films happened because of increasingly dumb teenagers celebrating the anniversary/presence of a masked killer.

I actually like that Sydney evolves throughout the films and now has a gun on standby for that reason, and how Ghostface has been countered because of her preparedness. It feels like he has to evolve as a threat now that the protagonists are more resourceful. The more superhuman he gets is fine to me because the protagonists are more prepared/less helpless.

Ghostface is uniquely scary because he's one of the hardest movie villains to kill - he's an idea that keeps coming back when somebody hears the story of the previous killer.

Edited by FOFD on Mar 5th 2023 at 8:13:47 AM

Scream VII has been greenlit.

https://twitter.com/britneyvinyl/status/1632925524178661378?s=46&t=xV_8r0pwVBDj5j0rQQCWyA

I'm kind of surprised about that, they seem to have good expectations for this movie.