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Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#38051: Apr 11th 2024 at 10:18:38 PM

[up] Actually, he barely survived. Near-death, but could easily come back from the dead if they so choose.

Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#38052: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:18:13 AM

Beat Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.

Fun, but like...so wonky. The lightsaber combat was so finicky. And I didn't get to upgrade all my Force powers.

I mean, half of them are dark powers, but it would have been nice to get the chance to unlock them all.

Oh well. On to Jedi Outcast.

...wait! Jedi Outcast came before Jedi Academy...?

Edited by Keybreak on Apr 15th 2024 at 6:22:52 AM

jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#38053: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:26:34 AM

Light side or dark side ending?

Not related, but Jaden was an idiot on the latter, he arrive on Korriban to find the Jedi and Sith killing each other, you will think he will pretend to still be a Jedi so that he will let his enemies kill each other.

Instead he elect to fight everyone.

The true Dark Side masters use their brains Jaden, not just their lightsabre.

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Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#38054: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:38:46 AM

Light side, mostly because I didn't want to kill Rosh.

Also, I just found out that Rosh was voiced by James Marsden, which is why he sounded so familiar.

But like, a really young James Marsden.

Fortunately there's six other games in the Heritage Pack, so that'll keep me entertained for a while.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#38055: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:50:20 AM

Yeah, Rosh was one of the first times I heard Jason Marsden.

He was also Gear in Static Shock back in the day.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 15th 2024 at 9:58:44 PM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#38056: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:56:35 AM

You guys are confusing James Marsden and Jason Marsden I think? The former is Cyclops/Token Human from the sonic movies, the latter is the voice actor.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#38057: Apr 15th 2024 at 6:59:08 AM

Crud, yeah. They have the same last names. But aren't related.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#38058: Apr 15th 2024 at 10:08:10 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] I think it starts with an NPC Jedi sensing Jaden's fall when he shows up so it wasn't an option.

jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#38059: Apr 15th 2024 at 10:43:18 AM

It was something like this.

Jaden descends from his ship, and two Jedi greet him

Jedi: Jaden..what happened to..

Jaden (angrily): Out of my way, the scepter will be mine.

(Jedi stops Jaden with his hand)

Jedi Oh, no I sense the Dark Side in you, Jaden. I can't let you pass.

Jaden I will pass whether you want it or not

(Jaden attacks the two Jedi with the Force)

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Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#38060: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:48:34 PM

Well Jedi Academy may have been rough, but it's not as hard as Republic Commando. Those stupid elite Genosians with the laser spears keep killing my whole squad at once...

Guess it's time to break out the cheats. ;p

Edited by Keybreak on Apr 16th 2024 at 6:52:07 AM

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#38061: Apr 23rd 2024 at 11:53:10 AM

Not sure if this is old new, but The Phantom Menace is returning to theaters on May 3.

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1782801609396752580

I mean, snark at the prequels all you want, but its absolutely true that some people who saw it when they were kids see it as their Star Wars. (Me. I'm some people who saw it as a kid)

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#38062: Apr 23rd 2024 at 12:02:52 PM

Yeah, there's a few places that are doing a whole saga marathon.

Twenty hours of Star Wars.

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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#38064: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:07:58 PM

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TPM is my favorite one in the Prequels.

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#38065: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:12:33 PM

I was 11 when TPM came out. It's Star Wars but if I want youthful Star Wars nostalgia I'll read the Wraith Squadron books.

jdeo1997 BLADE Pathfinders from Orion–Cygnus Arm Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
BLADE Pathfinders
#38066: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:13:32 PM

Tempting, but I'll probably hold off until Revenge of the Sith comes back to theaters

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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#38067: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:27:07 PM

In hindsight, it is strange how the movies generally don't offer much explanation about the villains.

Like, no one in the Prequels explains who the Sith are, or what they are seeking revenge for; the movie lets you gather the pieces alone, (they are clearly evil Force Users that ruled the galaxy 1000 years ago but have been overthrown by the Jedi, and there are always two of them)

Unless you read TPM's novelization, which gives us the Sith's backstory that we know today, and which the old EU built over, and even mention Darth Bane and Darth Zannha (And they didn't rule the galaxy after all, despite Mace Windu's dialogue in Revenge)

..........................

Similarly, the OT, never explains who the Emperor is, or how he masters the Force, like, was he a Jedi too?

The novelation of ANH, mention that he was a politician and a noble named Palpatine, who was elected as chancellor during the decadent last days of the Republic, only to declare himself Emperor.

Also, we never know who or what are those "Sith" that Vader is darkly lording over.

........................

Yet those movies are still enjoyable, proving that Info Dump is not necessary.

Edited by jawal on Apr 23rd 2024 at 10:25:30 AM

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theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#38068: Apr 23rd 2024 at 2:15:52 PM

I imagine they rely on Show Don't Tell in this case. It's pretty easy through watching the movie to know "The Sith oppose the Jedi, they have red lightsabers instead of blue and green, and they've supposedly been extinct for over a thousand years."

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#38069: Apr 23rd 2024 at 2:25:24 PM

As a matter of fact, to my understanding, Lucas deliberately made the Star Wars films in such a way that you could infer meaning by context without much need for exposition. He specifically studied Samurai films which often were good at this.

The impression he wanted to give was that you were looking at an alien culture that was relatable enough that you could follow it even if you were ignorant of the details.

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
EmeraldSource Since: Jan, 2021
#38070: Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:02:36 PM

Show, Don't Tell is a longstanding ideal of storytelling, and exposition is generally treated as a necessary evil to bridge gaps in direction or acting. That said, exposition is often counterproductive itself because unless it clarifies motivation and story audiences are not suddenly going to decipher the Techno Babble that sounds like a Wikipedia cliff notes.

Reportedly, someone asked Lucas while making the first film if audiences will understand who Vader is. His response was "He's wearing black armor and walking around a white walled set, we'll add some scary music and audiences will get it."

Edited by EmeraldSource on Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:06:01 AM

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king15 Having Faun from not certain Since: Mar, 2024
Having Faun
#38071: Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:10:50 PM

Generally, I find Star Wars is good with show don't tell. However, as much as I love The Phantom Menace, if anything it goes too far with that philosophy. I think by the end of the film you have a good understanding of the plot and what went on, but it really does drop you in Media Res. It's not too much of a problem, but does mean those first few scenes feel a bit confusing on a first watch.

[down]Yeah, sort of a mix between show and tell. Still, The Phantom Menace's intro had the issue of 'tell but not explain'. "The Trade Federation" - who? And you can figure out what that is by the end of the film, but it doesn't half make the first few scenes somewhat hard to understand.

Edited by king15 on Apr 23rd 2024 at 10:29:46 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#38072: Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:13:49 PM

Star Wars has an entire famous convention where the opening is given over to telling not showing.

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#38073: Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:17:31 PM

Indeed, both Lucas, and Filoni to an extent, tend to push show don't tell, or general exposition a tad far at times.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#38074: Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:22:47 PM

Lucas was a very "you figure it out" kind of guy. He liked unexplained time skips, narratives where the universe was clearly much bigger than the story being told, offscreen character development, and characters who are often indicated as sharing loads of adventures and relationships that the audience never gets to see.

For better or for worse, but that tone made Star Wars. It's basically the reason we have an EU in the first place: Lucas created a setting in which you always want to know more.

Yeah, there's a few places that are doing a whole saga marathon.

Twenty hours of Star Wars.

I did this once, when TFA came out, so there were several hours less then. I also did an MCU one, I think for Avengers 2.

I would recommend doing this exactly once for the experience and then never, ever again.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 23rd 2024 at 3:24:23 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
jouXIII The One with Knowledge of Things from Between the Multiverses (X-Troper) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One with Knowledge of Things
#38075: Apr 23rd 2024 at 4:21:27 PM

Yeah, me, my brother and couple of his friends watched the first 6 films back to back one summer. Most of us were almost asleep at the end, but I still remember that time fondly.

Edited by jouXIII on Apr 23rd 2024 at 2:24:25 PM

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