DC Movies

Can't wait to see it retconned~! Say it with joy~!

Mandatory Edit: ...Pagetopping's becoming a bit of a trend, I realize.

Alright, new topic: Will Peacemaker ever make peace... with himself?

Edited by Ego-Man25 on Apr 17th 2024 at 7:41:58 AM

Neva Howell will play Ma Kent.

Cool, we get the Kents all up in here.

Man with X-Men 97 out Marvel has been kicking ass in animation. Here's hoping Creature Commandos proves to be a great show.

I'm really hoping the acclaim 97 is getting convinces DC to focus more on animation, like giving My Adventures With Superman a bigger budget. That show already is very well received and popular, the only thing holding it back is that its clearly made on a budget with the animators not given as much resources as they deserve.

People say DC has the edge on Marvel when it came to animation, but it seems unless DC ups their game, then we'll see the tables turning.

DC doesn't even have the video game advantage anymore.

DC needs to get their shit together in, like, every front.

Their live action tv side was probably kinda even in that they are both mixed bags.

Edited by Blueace on Apr 17th 2024 at 12:36:12 PM

Yeah I would say their live-action tv front is pretty even.

Say what you will about the Arrowverse but it was hugely successful, and several shows did whether better than most like Superman and Lois, and Black Lightning. Plus Doom Patrol is great.

Marvel has tv hits like Wandavision and Daredevil, but there are stinkers like Inhumans, Iron Fist, and Secret Invasion.

So pretty neck and neck there.

Well don't forget DC has some shit shows as well, like Gotham Knights.

A show that I'm still shocked exists. What the hell.

Just with a look, it felt like something they greenlit at the start of the millenium and never got around to make.

I think they got overconfident with the success of Gotham and thought they could make another show about Batman without Batman.

I kinda find Secret Invasion to be an equivalent to Gotham Knights.

As it has a similar issue of making a show without any of the cool characters from the comic.

Gotham Knights went with a bunch of secondary and tertiary bat-related characters while Secret Invasion barring Fury was like mostly comprised of OC's.

So umh curious. Since Snyder was clearly the wrong choice to start the dceu (and he's become considered the epitome of bad directors now)?

Who do you think would have been a better choice to have started the dceu

J.J Abrams... As long he doesn't do any of the sequels.

That wouldn’t be fair to future directors.

Honestly I don't think that's a bad idea. Starting off with just a solid first film would have been good.

Tbf the mcu was pretty loose at first too. It's only the massive positive reaction Thanos got at the end of avengers that prompted Feige to create the infinity saga.

Edited by miraculous on Apr 28th 2024 at 4:06:02 AM

Preferably, not based on his 2000s draft of Superman, where Superman and Kryptonians fought Matrix style, Lex Luthor is a CIA agent... And an Alien as well.

What....

And where Krypton didn't blow up.

Edited by Trooper924 on Apr 28th 2024 at 7:11:40 AM

Hot take: I don't think they should have remade Superman and Superman II as the first movie of their new universe. They should have adapted a new Superman plot (like what Gunn is doing now), instead of just copy-pasting half of the 1978 movie and half of the 1980 movie, lowering the brightness, and calling it a day.

I don't think any director could have fixed how creatively bankrupt Man of Steel was. That was a problem in the script.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 28th 2024 at 4:53:41 AM

Yeah, but try telling that to the Zack Snyder fans of the world. I'll be honest with you: half the reason I'm anywhere near as positive towards his cut of Justice League at all is because anything would be better than that Frankenstein'd abomination of a cut that we witnessed from Joss Whedon. (For the record, I'm of the opinion that the Joss Whedon film is cinematic sacrilege.)

But yeah, the original Man Of Steel? As a stand-alone film, it would have been… fine. Some good in it, and a change on what a Superman film could be, hell I'm down for that, and it had the decency to not be "Oh, wow, he's EVIL now", like that fucking trend hadn't been done to death already… but it wasn't "foundation for an entire fucking cinematic universe" material.

Huh? The only official DC project in recent years that I can think of that turned Clark evil was Injustice, and that was an Elseworlds project made by a third party developer (IE, licensed, but not made, by DC) that - even so - made sure to indicate that the evil Clark wasn't the real Clark.

Why would an official DC revival adaptation of the character ever have turned him evil? I'm heavily critical of how Snyder handled Clark's characterization, and not even I would've assumed that would happen.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 28th 2024 at 8:52:24 AM

Also give credit to Frank Miller, he was the one who wrote Superman unfavorably, and other writers only followed his example.

JL17 is fine. I like it. It's certainly not an abomination. I've no desire to watch it at half speed to see the Snyder cut.

Edited by dcutter2 on Apr 28th 2024 at 5:44:51 PM

I agree. Hollywood needs to stop being so obsessed with the Reeves films. It's arguably the reason why every Hollywood take on Clark tends to lack humanity, and is definitely why a lot of his tropes still seem stuck back in the Silver Age.

Honestly, one of my favorite changes is that Lois is in love with Clark.

Before, the fact that Lana loved Clark, while Lois loved Superman, meant that she always supported Lana despite being "the love rival."

That's one of those things that feels weird to say, but accurate on second thought.

Lois only loving Superman and not Clark hasn't been a thing for decades, but it feels new in Man of Steel because most live action films have been takes on the Reeves films, which were Silver Age adaptations and used the "Lois ignores Clark as a bumbling joke" thing.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 28th 2024 at 10:04:21 AM