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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#12851: Jan 16th 2018 at 2:38:07 PM

WF seal for Double Wary Fighter when? [lol]

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#12852: Jan 16th 2018 at 3:18:11 PM

New arena maps are the real update. Finally some I can use some different strategies. None of them seem awful so far, mostly since horses are always the worst, and they got nerfed bad here. Good thing I never bothered with them on my arena team.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#12853: Jan 16th 2018 at 4:15:32 PM

Yeah, they're cool.

However, I don't know for how long I'll enjoy them in AA, because I just encountered a +10 Cav Team (Eliwood, Reinhardt, Cecilia) w/ +10 Fae. Since I still have 6 Cherche merges in stock, it means I might eventually get beyond the range of Cavalry teams.

To which I will say FINALLY.

Also if you still have spare blessings, you really should use them on your scoring team. Between last week and this one, the only improvements on my team are 1 merge & 1 blessing and my AA score increased by more than 20, from ~5035 to 5060+ (along with my Arena score I assume since those are identical when Fjorm is a bonus unit).

edited 16th Jan '18 4:16:35 PM by Julep

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#12854: Jan 16th 2018 at 4:15:41 PM

Def Ploy Seal get. I'd upgrade it now, but I only have 60 Sacred Coins and the QR Seal is a much higher priority.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#12855: Jan 16th 2018 at 4:27:53 PM

The fence maps seemingly have promoted more diversity. I didn't encounter a single horse team in AA just now. Incidentally, I hit 4963 on my first try.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12856: Jan 16th 2018 at 4:52:15 PM

I'm hitting around 730/match right now and +10 horses are still showing up, but they're generally not full horse teams. And it's stuff like Rein and Brave Lyn with Aether and dual Rallies, so suddenly Rein gets less threatening due to being unable to Reinbow Pulse.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#12857: Jan 16th 2018 at 6:47:55 PM

5* NY Corrin get! Like I said before, Flier Emblem with Airzura kicks all kinds of ass here. Super easy to get the max amount of points consistently.

Though having Gronnraven+ TA Bunmilla, Blárblade+ Summer Corrin, and Warpgate Nowitch helps a lot.

edited 16th Jan '18 6:48:19 PM by Karxrida

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#12858: Jan 16th 2018 at 7:58:40 PM

I've settled on my TT team being Ryoma, Sakura, Bike, and Micaiah. Not the most efficient, but they can usually get to the last map, and I've got plenty of potions. Once I get a 5* Corn I'll replace Bike and Micaiah with him and some other unit.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#12859: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:03:03 PM

I beat Oliver on Infernal today with help from a nifty guide with F 2 P units.

Funny how with enough strategy Fjorm, Selena, Felicia, and Wrys can effectivley win this entire thing easily.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12860: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:03:06 PM

I am told that if you equip QR twice it acts as a buffer against any effect that would cancel out QR. So Hector can equip the QR seal and use Wary Fighter with no penalty.

edited 16th Jan '18 8:03:35 PM by Clarste

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#12861: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:08:06 PM

Seems like a waste for the seal, but whatever works I guess?

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12862: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:13:15 PM

What else are you going to do with the seal? I mean being able to equip a breaker at the same time certainly isn't terrible. But only a few characters actually have good combos unlocked by it, imo.

I mean there's always the "too poor to afford QR 3" use, but that seems like even more of a waste.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12863: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:32:42 PM

Breaker or even Renewal, since this would allow a tank to self-sustain Quick Riposte threshold without needing to give up their special for Sol.

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#12864: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:38:06 PM

Guard+Quick Riposte to make tanks better against special-reliant units.

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12865: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:47:36 PM

That, too. Fjorm with her base setup really appreciates it, too, because she really wants both Shield Pulse and Quick Riposte, but could previously only have one.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#12866: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:56:35 PM

Funny thought that occurred to me: Lucina has nothing to say about the weapons the Winter Festival units are using, yet apparently the New Year stuff crosses a line.
That legit makes sense considering the premises of the respective maps. Christmas, like Easter, Halloween, and the Bride thing, is about you and your free-willed adversaries having a friendly fighting competition. New Year, on the other hand, has you ambush some people on a shrine visit and beat the brainwashing out of them. So in-universe, the Santas are equipped for a proppa scrap while the New Years are improvising with random bullshit.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12867: Jan 16th 2018 at 10:12:06 PM

Fjorm is one of those good combos I was thinking of, but I would consider Wary Fighter to be strictly better than Guard for keeping the tank alive.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#12868: Jan 16th 2018 at 10:16:32 PM

Have you ever been so obsessive, you un-summon yourself?

Seriously Faye, I am pretty sure that is illegal.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#12869: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:35:37 AM

Alfonse and NY!Corrin work very well together in TT, I think I am going to support them to make it better. Alfonse really likes the QR seal because his SPD remains bad as ever, but with Corrin next to him rallying him he can reach 43 DEF & 33 RES, which allows him to even tank about every red mage except for buffed Tharja.

[up][up] If the tank's name is Sheena, she is likely better off with Guard (and now QR) than with Wary Fighter, as it allows her to exploit her huge bulk and fire Ignis on the first turn of counter.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12870: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:40:40 AM

When I talk about Wary Fighter, I mean the version with Hector abusing double QR to remove its penalty while keeping its benefit. He always gets to counter twice and never gets doubled.

edited 17th Jan '18 1:41:52 AM by Clarste

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12871: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:43:10 AM

Wary Fighter also only works with armours, so not every tank can field it. Even then, there might need to be consideration for damage output because not securing the one-round can easily get a tank killed. Wary Fighter would be for Glimmer/Moonbow builds, whereas Guard would allow for Bonfire/Iceberg bombing.

EDIT: [up] Unless someone brings Axebreaker, then Hector still loses the second QR and gets doubled if the opponent is fast enough (not a terribly hard feat).

edited 17th Jan '18 1:45:44 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12872: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:45:26 AM

If Hector hits twice without getting doubled I don't see why you even remotely care about the special proccing, but sure.

Also I think I misunderstood what exactly Guard does, so yeah, that's a good option I guess.

Edit: The question was never "what's the best tank set-up?" It was "what's the best use of the QR seal to let tanks do things they couldn't do before?" My argument was that putting it on Hector is a bigger power boost than almost anything else you could do with it, but apparently I didn't realize how Guard worked because I've never seen anyone use it before.

edited 17th Jan '18 1:47:14 AM by Clarste

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12873: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:46:45 AM

If Hector fails to secure a kill, that may end in him getting expoded via WoM.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12874: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:49:28 AM

Hector is strong. Two hits from him is enough to kill almost anything anyway. But giving him Moonbow or Glimmer wouldn't be bad for insurance. No reason not to.

Axebreaker counters it, sure, but it's pretty easy not to put him in places where that's relevant. And it also counters anyone else who uses the QR seal just as much.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#12875: Jan 17th 2018 at 1:58:01 AM

Most stuff, but there's still some bulky stuff in the meta—especially fellow armours, where things can get murky.

Yeah, he can avoid it, but if he's running the double Quick Riposte and Guard build, he'd instead still be able to counter-double through it and then Bonfire bomb his attacker. Not the most common case, but still worth mentioning.

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