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Deadlock Clock: Dec 3rd 2016 at 11:59:00 PM
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1: Nov 12th 2016 at 5:45:16 AM

This image did not get enough consensus in the Image Suggestion thread. Other ideas?

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#3: Nov 12th 2016 at 1:01:26 PM

First and last panel would work fine for me.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4: Nov 12th 2016 at 1:10:42 PM

On the crowner I suggested panels 4+5. If lack of context is the concern, how about 1+4+5?

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#5: Nov 12th 2016 at 1:20:50 PM

Panels 1+4 are redundant if you cut the panels where they argue.

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#6: Nov 12th 2016 at 3:55:50 PM

The xkcd example is a bit too much of playing with this trope to be a good picture for me; I'd prefer somebody who is honestly trying to change history in a specific way, but whose actions set up the future he is trying to avoid. In the xkcd example, Black Hat simply does not care about the results of his change to the past, and makes a change that is functionally irrelevant.

edited 12th Nov '16 3:57:46 PM by thok

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#7: Nov 13th 2016 at 12:42:34 PM

Since it's a known fact that Hitler poisoned himself and was burned afterwards, I don't see the trope in question is in play at all. To me it looks like the character came in to murder Hitler at a pointless time (right before he did it himself) and thus actually changed history, if only on a small detail.

shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#8: Nov 15th 2016 at 8:15:50 AM

There's nothing in the comic about how black hat killed Hitler. He just says he did it in a bunker in 1945, which jives with real life.

edited 15th Nov '16 8:16:01 AM by shigmiya64

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#9: Nov 15th 2016 at 9:31:09 AM

Still it's dubious whether he was the cause of Hitler's death to begin with or not which makes it a questionable example.

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#10: Nov 15th 2016 at 11:10:49 AM

Not really dubious at all in the full comic.

As far as redundant panels go, you could pretty easily lose #2 and still have a completely cogent comic - #3 turns from a rebuttal against Black Hat in #2 to expanding the reasoning for the assertion put at the end of #1.

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#12: Dec 5th 2016 at 7:13:02 PM

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