Miraculous Ladybug

Because events in slice of life are rather unimportant in scale. Why should I care about Steven's breakfast while an army of lesbian space rocks is trying to blow up the planet?

I can't speak about your personal tastes or what you care about.

An episode that develops characters is anything but filler.

you can't expect everyone to enjoy these types of episodes you know.

I'm aware of people having varied tastes.

I only contest the idea of labeling Slice of Life as "filler". Well done Slice of Life moments develop characters ergo they aren't filler.

You are free to dislike them as much as you want. That doesn't mean they are "filler."

edited 1st Oct '16 9:54:03 AM by FallenLegend

i stated before that most slice of life episodes aren't filler but i don't see myself watching them often.

Do these character development happen matter in the main conflict? Do I get confused if I don't watch these episodes? If not, then they are filler.

edited 1st Oct '16 9:58:04 AM by flameboy21th

Seems like you need to re-read the definition of filler. To quote this wiki:

The bolded part is the main reason Slice of Life isn't filler.

An episode can't lack an advancement to "the main conflict" (as you call it) and still not be filler.Your given definition is faulty in that it forgets that every sole episode has a main conflict. By that logic Phineas And Ferb is just a filler show (an idea I find silly.)

But to answer your question.Yes they matter for the main conflict. Now that you mention Steven Universe I will explain how.

The latest episode with Pearl had her developing a crush with a human woman. It was slice of life as there was nothing new about the diamond authority, there was no gem's magic action.

Yet it developed Pearl by showing she was starting to move on from Rose. This was a huge advancement to her personal story arch. This is also linked to the main conflict as Rose was a big reason she stayed to protect earth. In turn this new love interest- motivation affect the way she deals with the main conflict.

Slice of Life =/= anime people wasting your time.

edited 1st Oct '16 10:13:41 AM by FallenLegend

funny you said that, that episode wasn't half bad.

Exactly. I feel Slice of Life has a bad rep because of anime. But a well done Slice of Life can do wonders to a story.

Anime filler is just people trying to pad until the author catches up.

edited 1st Oct '16 10:13:14 AM by FallenLegend

i prefer more mundane fantastic or or mundane awesome slice of life shows more. but then, why can't a show use action based ones to develop a character?

edited 1st Oct '16 10:23:57 AM by ewolf2015

Oftentimes the criticism of Slice of Life being "filler" because it's not important to "the plot" comes from a misunderstanding of what the plot (or the point, in either case) actually is, generally by cherry picking a specific arc as the only thing of importance to the series.

Steven Universe is a good example - when people decry the Slice Of Life episodes because they're not giving us more about Homeworld or the Diamonds and such, it's because they miss the fact that the relationships between the characters and small but characterization heavy moments are what the meat of the show actually is - even in the plot heavy episodes, that what's important to the show.

Ladybug is in a different place, however. It's the first season. The series is finding its footing and trying to establish both its setting and its cast of characters. It isn't interested in seriously pursuing major arc at this point, so it's only dropping hints while focusing on feeling out the main characters and supporting cast. That's why the big plot furthering parts came at the very end of the season - it's set-up for when they actually dive into it later.

Most Western series that have arcs are like that, being more hands off in the first season or so as the show finds its footing.

edited 1st Oct '16 12:32:56 PM by KnownUnknown

I think people often complain about non-gem focused episodes, because most humans are much less interesting then gems. And really who wants Lars or Sadie episodes anyway?

i would

Completely agreed.

I also like Sadie and Lars. Even if you don't care much about them they do serve an important purpose. They remind you whats at stake, what could be lost if the gems lost. Its no longer an abstract "save the world." The average day people remind you that real people with wants and felling are there.

In the case of Lady bug there is a huge opportunity for characterizations that I hope they take advantage in season 2.

It's truly telling how close Marinette is not with her classmates, specially considering that Alya had just arrived. Without her Marinette was going to sit alone. Which is odd because I don't think she is asocial.

edited 2nd Oct '16 10:22:41 AM by FallenLegend

On another note I find funny how much Ladybug's teenagers love the Zoo. I mean kids loving the zoo? Sure. But teenagers? doesn't seem likely.

It's a great excuse for having adventures there though.

edited 2nd Oct '16 10:23:18 AM by FallenLegend

Better than being akumatized at school.

So, Chloe is confirmed as the Bee Miraculous holder, Alya will be the fox miraculous holder, and the peacock miraculous holder is called Le Paon.

Who saw some of that coming?

edited 7th Oct '16 2:49:59 PM by Vampireandthen

Wow, really not beating around the bush with these reveals, are they? A lot of theorizing fans must feel very vindicated right now.

I'm curious as to what this will do to Alya's role in the show. Will she still be running the Ladyblog? As a hero, will she still mostly be support to LB and CN, or will she be a more independent one—or even a partner to Chloe? Will her Volpina be an every-episode thing, a last-minute powerup, or someone who only turns up when the situation is really dire? How will this effect her relationship with Marinette?

People aren't reacting well to the spoilers. But that probably won't last long before the fanart/fics start.

I'm okay with it, the Miraculous Ladybug tag got boring after the season finale aired.

edited 7th Oct '16 3:22:52 PM by diyedas

Honestly, these aren't that big spoilers, as everyone already suspected as much from them.

I heard a theory that Nathaniel will get the butterfly miraculous. I like that.

What. I want a source. NOW.

http://miraculousladybug.wikia.com/wiki/Nathaniel_Kurtzberg

Check the comment section. You'll find it. It's short, but also rather compelling. The thing about Nathaniel becoming Hawk Moth.

edited 7th Oct '16 3:47:28 PM by Vampireandthen

Jeremy Zag posted a bunch of pictures literally revealing these spoilers. Need a source? Just check the tumblr tag of Miraculous Ladybug, it's all over the place there.

Oh, got sorta

edited 7th Oct '16 3:45:27 PM by diyedas

I meant for the spoilers a few posts up, but I found it.

The one year I don't go to New York Comic Con, this happens :/

Chloe haters BTFO.