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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1: Sep 13th 2015 at 6:12:31 AM

We have a job search thread and an economics thread where this topic crops up a lot, and I thought it would be great to discuss it on its own. The rights, entitlements, and needs of employees, on one hand, and the needs of a business to remain productive and efficient, and how the conflict between "people having a good job" and "people having a job at all" can be resolved.

We'll kick off with this interesting piece of news: A court has ruled that time spent traveling to and from work is “work”. This is especially interesting in light of the fact that long commutes are a crucial factor in people's (un)happiness!

People so consistently under-count the pain of commuting when making choices that the problem has its own name: Commuter's Paradox. The paradox is that, although rational choice theory predicts people should balance commuting against other goods and costs, so that one person might have a longer commute but a nicer (or cheaper) house and so be just as happy overall, this doesn't happen: people who have long commutes are miserable, full stop. A separate survey by Kahneman and Krueger found that commuting was the least enjoyable of nineteen daily activities mentioned, and other studies have found relations between long commutes and poor social lives, poor health, high stress, and various other problems.

Psychologists aren't entirely sure why people so consistently under-count the pain of commuting. Maybe it's because it's viewed as "in-between" time rather than as an activity on its own; maybe it's because it comes in relatively short and individually bearable chunks repeated over many years, instead of as a single entity. In any case, unless you are mentally atypical you will probably have a tendency to undercount commute time when buying a new home, and may want to adjust for that tendency.

Commutes are stress that doesn't pay, and maybe it's high time it does get compensated.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#2: Sep 13th 2015 at 4:01:30 PM

Why you should start work at 10am (unless you're in your 50s)

This might be why, he adds, the traditional nine to five is so ingrained; it is maintained by bosses, many of them in their mid-50s and upwards, because “it is best for them”. So should workplaces have staggered starting times, too? Should those in their 50s and above come in at 8am, while those in their 30s start at 10am, and the teenage intern or apprentice be encouraged to turn up at 11am? Kelley says that synchronised hours could have “many positive consequences. The positive side of this is people’s performance, mood and health will improve. It’s very uplifting in a way, because it’s a solution that will make people less ill, and happier and better at what they do.”

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3: Sep 13th 2015 at 4:15:20 PM

Nice idea. I happen to have a professional background in HR (training), so if anyone has any specific questions, I'll try my best to find an answer.

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#4: Sep 13th 2015 at 4:31:15 PM

In the (curricular) internship I did, I used to start the working day at somewhere between 9:30 AM and 10:00 AM, since the bosses were younger (in their 30's, basically). The professional interns used to appear even a bit later than 10:00 AM (especially after they had come from filming some festivals or events the day before).

So, upvote for the 10:00 AM idea (11:00 AM might a bit too late, though it's understandable for those who are quite young).

edited 13th Sep '15 4:32:18 PM by Quag15

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#5: Sep 14th 2015 at 8:17:18 AM

That commuting thing has been taken massively out of context by the press. The ruling wasn't that you must be paid for your commuting time, it was that if you have a job without an office or actual place of work then you work starts from when you are called to attend a situation, not when you arrive there. It was focused mainly on care workers, who will often be based at their homes instead of an office, they will then be called out to a care home or such to attend to someone, but they will only be paid for the time at the care home instead of for the time from the moment they are called.

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