The Devil Kings' Domains

And discussion thread is up.

Feel free to fill this place up with chatter, world building ideas, and various shenanigans.

How specific does the answer to the question be? Could it be something like saying out loud "What happens if I say yes" ?

Also, deadpool616, why are you writing in the present tense?

Should I not?

Well, Makaioh wrote in the past tense, so it just seems rather odd.

Also, posting "also, first post" in the RP thread is pointless and clutters the thread up.

Sorry

Hey, idea: what if, near cities and temples and general areas with lots of adventurers and priests, the night skies are all muddy and grey because of all the Light pollution?

edited 23rd Jan '15 3:08:15 PM by KarrinBlue

That works perfectly fine. In fact, Light is so afraid that Darkness will return that bigger settlements use whatever means (magic, fires, glowing mushrooms, etc) at night in a superstitious belief that such things will keep the shadows at bay. And this in turn is messing up the environment due to zealous overusage of such materials too...

I'll give a post tomorrow, in case anyone else needs to squeeze in a post beforehand.

Well, now I want to have Eleanor quote The Old Astronomer at some of those people.

If I asked a random NPC what was worse: the time when heroes for fought villains and more monsters or the time when heroes rule, what would she tell me?

Well, it'd probably depend on where you were, who was around, and what heroes or villains had done recently.

Yep yep. You'll get different answers depending on if the NPC was a villager or a noble, if there's Inquisitors about, and so on. Let's just say this game has quite a bit to do with "perspective".

Also expect a GM post by evening, Pacific time.

Makaioh, I find your last post a bit problematic. You see, answering 'yes' to the hypothetical question of 'would you become a Devil King' can be done in multiple ways, and finding a way to accommodate various characters' characterisation with it is relatively easy. However, believing that the illusion is real (so to speak), interacting with it, and eating something it offers you is very problematic for some characters. Currently I see no way (that isn't contrived) that Ellie would eat the fruit. I'm in a problem.

I agree with Des there. This kind of forces is to choose between the actions that make sense in character, and the actions that'll move the plot forward and be fun. Eleanor is much more likely to start feeding apple-scraps to mice with every available measuring equipment trained on them than she is to start eating it, but that isn't much fun for anyone, I think. Eating fruit offered by a skeleton is just not something I can see her doing outside of extremely convoluted circumstances.

Ya I had someone planned but at this point only an absolute weeaboo or dummy is going to actually go to this place

Ah, I see the problem. I'll try to think of a reasonable way to include your characters in tomorrow. Any specific suggestions? All I have for an alternative is a rather done to death contract signing with paper and quill and stuff.

Why is it necessary that they specifically agree to go to Leaven? I mean, demons are all about tricking you into doing what they want. I think that the 'say the word yes' is enough, from a story perspective, to get them over there.

And... yeah. A lot of these characters just have no reason to want to go there, they have satisfying lives, they have no reason to listen to anything the magic hallucination skeleton and the floating textbox say... It just doesn't really leave a whole lot of options open if you're not already playing the sort of character who's into demons or is deeply unsatisfied with their life.

I think the purpose behind this scene is to say "Hey guys, the Devils aren't all THAT bad! They're letting you have a way out! Aren't they nice?" which seems bit too much a whitewash. Like, the demon lords are on the brink of extinction. This last devil's gambit is wild, crazy, and entirely dependent on spunky dudes from Earth to rejuvenate their ranks.

Give it a bit more bite. Devils aren't nice. There's a reason why such things are given a bad rap in the first place. Someone says yes, they get sent to Leaven, do not pass go, do not collect 200.

Misleading deals is a common trope in fairy/demon/whatever-human deals. Then they don't have a way back home unless they do what the last lord wanted.

edited 25th Jan '15 8:01:29 PM by HazzyHaz

Because uncommitted people make horrible investments for powerful positions and demons enjoy temptations and contracts. Also the fact they don't really have the power to do anything unless both parties are in agreement, as in the many, many myths of such, I guess is my reasoning.

Though I'm beginning to doubt myself now after reading your posts...

Lies by omission are the trickiest.

Hell, to take the tale of Cu Chulainn as an example, he was the greatest Irish warrior in legend. However, he was felled because he made too many deals. What kind you may ask? Well, he made a deal to never eat dog, then another geis to always eat food offered to him by a woman, so when some lady gave him dog meat right before a great battle...

edited 25th Jan '15 8:11:35 PM by HazzyHaz

Ah, but wouldn't someone who'd take random skeleton food for no reason besides 'a hallucination of a text box told me it'd give me great power' also make a poor choice for a leader?

Right I'll just edit the post tomorrow by taking even the most questionable "yes" as an agreement then, to prevent further problems. That works?

While I managed to make it work, I too prefer the way of instant transportation simply because it's also funnier~

I'll remove George's reaction to the skeleton pending GM edit.

Much simpler, yes.

And the post is edited. Hopefully people have a much easier time with this then my previous one.