Star Trek: Beyond

‘Star Trek 3′ Will Stay True to Original Franchise, Go Into ‘Deep Space’

Two words: Bull. Shit.

Two other words: Butt. Hurt.

edited 7th Jul '14 4:22:42 PM by kalel94

They've been leading towards the Five Year Mission with the first two. Be kinda cool to have Chris Pine do the "Where no man has gone before" opening.

Cool. As in two week old custard cool, maybe.

Not really feeling this movie, especially when Roberto '9/11 Truther' Orci is directing.

He is? Oh well, as long as a director's political beliefs stay out of their job, it's not something I care to know. And he produced the other two films, so it's a step up or step down to direct?

He helped write the first two, didn't he?

If he's a Truther and he was involved in writing Into Darkness . . . his politics DID get into the job. The last half of that combined references to the Kahn parts of Star Trek with an Inside Job version of 9/11 where a government official teamed up with a terror king to start a war with a major nation.

Sounds like the Inside Job theory on 9/11 to me. We funded Bin Laden so he'd hit the Twin Towers and strike off the last decade of wars in the Middle East.

That idea isn't wholly a 9/11 thing.

Well, the real strike against him is that he's never directed any movie before.

Oh, I know it isn't purely a 9/11 thing, but considering his background as a Truther, if he was involved in writing Into Darkness, and that came up, it's suggestive at the very least.

Is it too much to hope that this one will have more depth than a puddle?

On the one hand Abrams has abandoned Trek, which is good. On the other, we don't know what's coming.

So fair chance for good, stronger chance for bad.

Star Trek was mostly as deep as a puddle. Just had a few deep parts.

On one hand, I can definitely understand why a lot of people don't like these new movies. On the other hand, the first one was pretty much my gateway drug for sci-fi. I can't bring myself to truly hate them.

You don't need to, long as you get why others hate them so you don't stumble on landmines.

I'm not sure quite what to expect from ST 13. I enjoyed Into Darkness for at least going for some kind of theme even if it came up short (as opposed to 09 which seemed like it went for nothing and succeeded). Fingers crossed they finally get an interesting antagonist as Nero was a wasted character and the villains of STID were arguably the weakest aspect as all the character stuff with the Enterprise crew seemed promising if nothing else.

I'm not sure how to feel about this one. I enjoyed Into Darkness as a film, but not as a Star Trek film. Being directed by one of the 'writers' of Revenge of the Fallen doesn't help, either.

Then again, it'll still be better than The Final Frontier.

And they don't have a Writer's Strike to deal with, unlike Revenge of the Fallen.

Orci does have a rather impressive pedigree being the writer for a lot of big budget movies. He has no resume as a director, though, so that will make this much more of a gamble. Abrams himself only had experience in tv before his first job on MI:III, which incidentally set records for the biggest budget for a first time director. I remember when ROTF came out Orci had a chat section on the Transformers website TFW 2005.com, and he came across as fairly level headed and well spoken. He also talked candidly about expectations in movies that are this big, and how directors can interpret the script in an entirely different direction (the Twins). That's probably the main reason he left Transformers after ROTF, he knew it would be an uphill battle for him to get rid of THAT stigma.

I've really never been impressed with Abrams as a director. Like Joss Whedon, he's competent but doesn't really have their own style to it. He said that they took four years to make the sequel because they were fine-tuning the script, and it still turned out extremely mediocre. Kind of reminds me of the South Park documentary where Stone and Parker said they could spend several more weeks on a given episode and it'll only turn out 5% better.

If anything, having a change in directors will be a good thing, allow someone to get out of the rut they built for themselves from day one.

Whatever they do I hope it doesn't involve any of the original series villains. Using Khan was bad enough. Let's at least try and do something different this time.

How about the antagonist being some sort of space anomaly rather than an actual person? That'd be a change of pace.

edited 8th Jul '14 12:33:17 PM by Mort08

For my own amusement I came up with an idea that should please the suits and could make for a good film. Basically bring in the Borg: pull a Locutus on Pine; kill off Chekov; hope Eve can act well enough and put her in the triumvirate.

Would be fun to bring in Q 60(or is the time gap between TOS and TNG 80) years early. They could try and bring Q in for a cameo.

Bring back Jeri Ryan.

Hell, it worked for Voyager. Time paradoxes be damned!