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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#451: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:17:49 PM

[up]Two if you count Malekith's shenanigans.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#452: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:35:23 PM

I wouldn't count "one dark elf" as an alien invasion.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#453: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:39:56 PM

One dark elf with a city block sized spaceship!

I count four. But I can see why you say two.

I was counting the Events of Thor and Ultron has some origin with Thantos.

But in terms of massive disasters, the MCU out weighs the FoX-Men verse easily.

Gamma monsters tearing up Harlem, an alien incursion in the NYC, a rash of bombings across the US climaxing in the abduction of the president, an alien incursion in London, Rogue Hellicarriers crashing into the Pentagon equivalent, a gamma monster tearing up Wakanda, a city being abducted in wepenoized in an attempt to cause a mass extinction event.

edited 9th Nov '15 1:40:56 PM by Whowho

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#454: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:58:19 PM

And yet, if you're a powerful mutant, you still have a better chance in the MCU. The global threats won't be aiming specifically for you, and with your powers you actually have better fighting or escape chances than almost anybody else. While in the FOX universe they will be aiming directly for your kind, readying measures tailored to take you down.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#455: Nov 9th 2015 at 1:58:38 PM

I was counting the Events of Thor and Ultron has some origin with Thantos.
Ultron is not an alien, therefore does not count as an "alien invasion." Neither is the Destroyer an alien (okay, it's an alien robot, but that's it) and it didn't do much "invading." And Thanos hasn't touched Earth yet.

I count one and a half alien invasions - the Chitauri invasion was a full blown alien invasion, while Malekith was one dude with godlike powers.

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#456: Nov 9th 2015 at 2:18:32 PM

The destroyer counts it's stretching it if he doesn't

Ultron kinda counts since it's implied Thanos has some influence on him

"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#457: Nov 9th 2015 at 2:41:02 PM

[up][up][up] that's a point. The average power level of the FoX-Men verse is so much higher than the MCU that if inclined the mutants could probably conquer the MCU.

The MCU has some heavy hitters like Thor and The Hulk (Wanda's power level is not yet clear) but no one else would have much of a chance against Magneto. And the MCU has few physikics to combat Xavier.

Debatabley the X-men team roster for Apocalypse (Jean Grey, Scott Summers, Hank Mc Coy, Mystique, Storm, Petrio Maximoff, Nightcrawler, and Xavier) could trounce the Avengers.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#458: Nov 9th 2015 at 3:54:41 PM

I'd count the Malekith thing as a localized 'incident', personally, not a full-on invasion. If it weren't for all the portals involved, the whole thing would have been localized to a single university campus, compared to the city-wide attack from the New York invasion.

The Hulk outbreak was arguably more destructive to Earth than what Malekith wound up doing.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#459: Nov 9th 2015 at 5:51:48 PM

Given the opportunity, I'd bring the X-men into the MCU by doing a mass evacuation plot from the current post days-of-future-pasrlt movie verse into the MCU, motivated by the release of some global anti-mutant biological warfare, and facilitated by a mutant with universe hopping abilities.

Mostly because I love the alternative history of the Fox continuity, and that's the only way I can see to preserve it. If the mutant characters are cosmic immigrants, it allows flash backs to that previous continuity.

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#460: Nov 9th 2015 at 9:19:18 PM

I'd love to see MCU Scarlet Witch meet their Quicksilver and a magnetic guy that looks a lot like her dad but isn't.

edited 9th Nov '15 9:19:35 PM by MadSkillz

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#461: Nov 9th 2015 at 9:49:31 PM

The destroyer counts it's stretching it if he doesn't
Uh, no, it's stretching it to count the Destroyer as an "invasion." Who was invading? Loki? No, he wasn't - he was only trying to kill Thor, not trying to take over anything or kill anyone else.

Ultron kinda counts since it's implied Thanos has some influence on him
Nope, still doesn't count. Unless there is an actual alien invading something, it's not considered an "alien invasion."

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#462: Nov 9th 2015 at 10:08:51 PM

Is a drone invading when it comes into someone's territory without that territory's consent?

So yes, it was an invasion. It doesn't matter whether it was just trying to kill Thor. The first damn thing it did was blow up cars and people.

[up] If you want to be anal about it then it's a robot rebelling, creating his own robot army and trying to cause (most likely) human extinction with a meteor and implied to be doing so because of an alien influence.

edited 9th Nov '15 10:15:05 PM by MadSkillz

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#463: Nov 10th 2015 at 7:09:48 AM

Is a drone invading when it comes into someone's territory without that territory's consent?
According to US law, nope. Sending drones is different than actually invading.

If you want to be anal about it then it's a robot rebelling, creating his own robot army and trying to cause (most likely) human extinction with a meteor and implied to be doing so because of an alien influence.
Which still doesn't qualify it for "alien invasion" status.

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#464: Nov 10th 2015 at 8:03:56 AM

Honestly this is a stupid argument? Technically there's only been one full scale alien invasion but catastrophes are happening on a fairly regular basis.

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#468: Dec 10th 2015 at 10:31:47 PM

Oh man, only now I realized that Jean Grey is Sands Stark. XD

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#471: Dec 11th 2015 at 7:41:08 AM

Aside from Apocalypse not having the deep baritone that I'd assume he'd have, the film looks good for an X-Men movie.

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#472: Dec 11th 2015 at 7:45:08 AM

It's fine.

It just feels oddly formulaic. Like somehow the mutant villains end up wanting about the same things.

edited 11th Dec '15 8:01:10 AM by edvedd

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#473: Dec 11th 2015 at 8:32:25 AM

[up]Yeah. The "mutant supremacy" angle was already done with Sebastian Shaw.

edited 11th Dec '15 8:33:49 AM by nervmeister

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#474: Dec 11th 2015 at 8:35:33 AM

And Magneto, to some extent. Maybe not 'destroy everything' level, but still, he thinks Mutants should rule.

I liked First Class and DOFP, but this just made me go "Oh, this again?"

edited 11th Dec '15 8:36:15 AM by edvedd

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#475: Dec 11th 2015 at 8:51:43 AM

[up]Problem is, Singer keeps bringing in a grander "save the world" plot. For some reason, telling a more localized/intimate story is beyond him. Maybe one could've been done where a small team of X-men get sent to Africa to find a young Storm and wrest her free from the grip of The Shadow King. That's it! No end-of-the-world scenario or anything. Just the X-men on a mission to find a new mutant and deal with some asshole in the process.

edited 11th Dec '15 8:59:56 AM by nervmeister


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