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dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#1: Jun 5th 2014 at 8:35:42 AM

We could fix the copyright violation by removing the first panel or two, but afterward, would the strip seem like something that could go on a Quotes page?

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#2: Jun 5th 2014 at 9:35:03 AM

[up] It does seem to be in "might as well be a page quote" territory, even with a panel or two removed.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#3: Jun 5th 2014 at 10:57:01 AM

Might as well be a page quote has never seemed like a good reason to change an image to me. If it is worth a quote, it is worth the image. Both illustrate the idea, and images are more fun.

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dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#4: Jun 5th 2014 at 11:15:47 AM

In that case, how many panels can we remove?

m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5: Jun 5th 2014 at 12:35:55 PM

Using 75% of the work seem a little questionable and using only two panels doesn't really work.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#6: Jun 5th 2014 at 1:15:56 PM

I don't think that comic says anything about how she is a role model. Also I'd like to actually see the role model(s) instead of just hearing that she's a girl's heroine.

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#7: Jun 5th 2014 at 1:50:54 PM

[up] x 4 If there's something going on in the pic that makes it visually interesting, then yes, keeping it is a good idea. The thrust of the "page quote" argument is that the text in the image is doing all the work; everything else around it is contributing little or nothing in the way of content.

I can't look at the webcomic examples right now, but skimming through the other folders, I'm not sure how we'd go about pic'ing this except cutting down the current.

edited 5th Jun '14 1:54:56 PM by Willbyr

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#8: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:08:15 AM

Clock is set. We can't use the current as is since it's the entire strip, but cutting very much out of it kinda ruins the effect.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#9: Jun 27th 2014 at 1:18:33 PM

I still don't think we should use the strip at all.

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#10: Jul 15th 2014 at 4:07:56 AM

Is the strip even an example? If I understand it correctly, the trope is about how the underrepresentation of women in media causes female characters to be judged as female characters rather than characters, resulting in an environment where writers make female characters more wholesome and flawless than male ones to avoid accusations of misogyny. The strip, as far as I can see, illustrates the title but not the trope.

I don't know what a better image would be like, though. Maybe some combination of panels from the second-to-last strip here?

edited 15th Jul '14 4:08:27 AM by ArtisticPlatypus

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#11: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:09:59 AM

I just realized that I forgot to set the original clock on this one. Since the discussion really didn't go anywhere, I'm just going to pull the entire strip since it's a copyright ding as is. Maybe someone will find something better in the future. Locking up.

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