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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#10501: Oct 17th 2023 at 12:46:46 AM

Yeah, seems like he got shot

https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-terror-attack-suspect-caught-police/

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10502: Oct 17th 2023 at 1:47:00 AM

Thanks.

BBC follow up mentioned that the suspect is Tunisian and is in Belgian soil illegally after his application for asylum was not considered.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10503: Oct 18th 2023 at 5:34:17 AM

Guardian has more details on the (Tunisian) shooter and the videos recorded by bystanders. He's wearing an orange jacket.

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Goku Black
#10504: Oct 18th 2023 at 6:36:01 AM

Berlin synagogue attacked as antisemitic incidents rise

A Berlin synagogue was attacked with Molotov cocktails early Wednesday as antisemitic incidents in the German capital have been rising following the violent escalation in the Middle East.

The Kahal Adass Jisroel community said its synagogue in the city's Mitte neighborhood was attacked with two incendiary devices. Police confirmed the incident

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10505: Oct 18th 2023 at 6:44:13 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67083432

BBC has an article on why Hamas isn't called "terrorists" in its news feeds.

Take note of this:

John Simpson explains. Well IIRC, some ex-gov't officials/intelligence agents and analysts/researchers are taking issues with this.

Terrorism is a loaded word, which people use about an outfit they disapprove of morally. It's simply not the BBC's job to tell people who to support and who to condemn - who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.

We regularly point out that the British and other governments have condemned Hamas as a terrorist organisation, but that's their business. We also run interviews with guests and quote contributors who describe Hamas as terrorists.

The key point is that we don't say it in our voice. Our business is to present our audiences with the facts, and let them make up their own minds.

As it happens, of course, many of the people who've attacked us for not using the word terrorist have seen our pictures, heard our audio or read our stories, and made up their minds on the basis of our reporting, so it's not as though we're hiding the truth in any way - far from it.

Any reasonable person would be appalled by the kind of thing we've seen. It's perfectly reasonable to call the incidents that have occurred "atrocities", because that's exactly what they are.

During World War Two, BBC broadcasters were expressly told not to call the Nazis evil or wicked, even though we could and did call them "the enemy".

"Above all," said a BBC document about all this, "there must be no room for ranting". Our tone had to be calm and collected.

It was hard to keep that principle going when the IRA was bombing Britain and killing innocent civilians, but we did. There was huge pressure from the government of Margaret Thatcher on the BBC, and on individual reporters like me about this - especially after the Brighton bombing, where she just escaped death and so many other innocent people were killed and injured.

Edited by Ominae on Oct 18th 2023 at 6:44:57 AM

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#10506: Oct 18th 2023 at 11:16:19 AM

Reposting from the Islamophobia thread.

Joseph Czuba's actions against Wadea Al-Fayoume should be viewed as an affront to any of G-d's servants.

Furthermore, I consider it to be a terror attack in its own right, based on the fact that Czuba's actions were made as a threat to all Muslims.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10507: Oct 23rd 2023 at 6:42:36 PM

Turns out the Tunisian guy shot in Brussels was reported by BBC to have escaped from jail in Tunisia.

Tunisian government filed extradition papers to Belgium. Apparently someone overlooked it.

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Goku Black
#10508: Oct 30th 2023 at 12:49:24 PM

Jewish schools across Paris evacuated due to a bomb threat

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10509: Oct 30th 2023 at 7:57:00 PM

Looks like German SOF is heading to the ME in order to launch evacuation routes for Germans there. A HQ was set up in Cyprus. Hearing Jordan too.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10510: Oct 31st 2023 at 7:20:54 AM

Heard news in Paris that Police Nationale shot a woman with a veil after she made threats, including shouting "Allahu Akbar". She also claimed that she's going to use a bomb on them. A check on her body showed no weapons or explosives.

She's okay (injured though), but there's an investigation on whether the shooting is justified. Eight shots were fired.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/10/31/french-police-shot-and-wounded-a-woman-who-made-threats-at-a-train-station_6216131_7.html#

Edited by Ominae on Oct 31st 2023 at 5:40:19 AM

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#10511: Oct 31st 2023 at 3:06:04 PM

"According to a police source". Yeah that checks out

JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#10512: Nov 1st 2023 at 3:39:14 AM

Three men in Finland have been sentenced to jail for preparing for far-right terrorist activity

This included 3D printing weapons, stockpiling explosives, and gathering a list of enemies. One also had used his 3D printed SMG to shoot at a mailbox of a foreign family living in his neighborhood.

[ed.] Actually, these guys didn't have explosives. It was the other neo-nazi group. Checking news coverage, the state is still building the case against them.

Edited by JethroQWalrustitty on Nov 1st 2023 at 12:41:37 PM

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The law in the night
#10513: Nov 1st 2023 at 4:32:24 PM
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#10514: Nov 1st 2023 at 4:48:36 PM

As posted here and elsewhere, Israel and Palestine currently has its own thread - which is locked. Discussion about that situation shouldn't move to other threads.

Terrorist activity elsewhere in the world that's connected to the situation might be on-topic here. The supply of military hardware to Hamas and other groups for use in the current conflict isn't.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 1st 2023 at 11:50:23 AM

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10515: Nov 1st 2023 at 5:11:37 PM

[up]I am a bit at loss now. With the Israel thread locked and the topic fitting both North Africa/Middle East and the Global Terrorism thread, I have no idea where to put this article.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10517: Nov 2nd 2023 at 3:50:51 AM
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#10518: Nov 2nd 2023 at 4:29:55 AM

As noted just a few posts back, the Israel and Palestine thread is locked and topics directly related to that shouldn't be sent to other OTC threads.

The terminology used for Hamas falls into that category.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 2nd 2023 at 11:30:41 AM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10519: Nov 2nd 2023 at 4:34:40 AM

Right. I'll stay away from that.

It seems important that it made the news; the BBC didn't want to stray from the "militant" tag.

Edited by Ominae on Nov 2nd 2023 at 4:38:51 AM

TURI12345 Since: May, 2021
#10520: Nov 2nd 2023 at 5:46:40 PM
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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10521: Nov 2nd 2023 at 8:34:37 PM

The tagging thing the BBC is confronting with (during the Troubles when the British were dealing with PIRA) didn't sit well with active/ex-intelligence/government officials via Linkedin...

At least that's what the views are from those I follow. They don't like the BBC being neutral.

Edited by Ominae on Nov 3rd 2023 at 2:03:21 AM

JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#10522: Nov 3rd 2023 at 1:35:26 AM

the thing during the Trouble was that the neutral language allowed BBC to be able to talk to the Provos and cover the story more impartially, and they also talked to Loyalist paras.

ISIS specifically is a very special case because they always had a very strict policy ofnot co-operating with anyone, not other militant groups, no outside media. Not going to say anything about which neighbouring and nearby states they may have co-operated with

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10523: Nov 3rd 2023 at 2:04:07 AM

John Simpson was in a BBC video explaining about being impartial with the tagging you mentioned. Even he got in hot water.

TURI12345 Since: May, 2021
#10524: Nov 3rd 2023 at 2:24:33 PM
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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10525: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:36:33 PM

Previous mentions of how some current/former intelligence officials have grinds to gear against the BBC’s reporting over the use of militant and terrorism tagging.

Any BBC reporter that got laid off from this is news to me. Other agencies that I know of haven’t spoken about this. I don’t trust those in Linked In unless official sources are there.


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