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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#626: Oct 23rd 2013 at 3:40:28 PM

Ryuko is a valid way to romanize her name. Don't be pedantic.

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SiennaCiShan Since: May, 2013
#627: Oct 23rd 2013 at 3:47:30 PM

No, it isn't.

Ryuuko or Ryūko is, Ryuko is a different sound altogether.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#628: Oct 23rd 2013 at 3:54:27 PM

Admittedly, and normally I'd agree, but there's only one character he could possibly be referring to, so I don't see the holdup. Or shall we insist on spelling it 流子 from now on?

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SiennaCiShan Since: May, 2013
#629: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:02:57 PM

Ryuuko or Ryūko is fine.

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#630: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:07:32 PM

If you wanna be pedantic, Ryuko and Ryuuko are not different sounds. Merely a longer mora which is merely a different length.

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#631: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:08:01 PM

so. calling her ryuko just to piss a gramma nazi off. Challenge accepted.

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#632: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:11:00 PM

Wow, I never expected to see this level of pathetic pedantry outside of 4chan and such.

Ryuko, Ryuuko, like what sound differences they have matters, we all know who we are referring to.

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#633: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:11:05 PM

It's one of those things that sounds completely different to a native speaker but exactly the same to everyone else. All languages have them.

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#634: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:12:49 PM

If you're going to be that insistent on how a Japanese name is typed then just do it in Japanese. Even りううこ is fine, but if you're going to be overly obsessed with typing it the 'correct' way in English then that just makes you appear as a weeaboo who doesn't know Japanese himself but still goes on to lecture people about Japanese names in English.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#635: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:13:24 PM

I have five years of Japanese experience, and I know they're different sounds. It doesn't mean I'm going to bite someone's head off for not using two Us when we're speaking English anyway.

^...now I look pedantic, but it should be りゅうこ, not りううこ.

edited 23rd Oct '13 4:14:09 PM by RedSavant

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SiennaCiShan Since: May, 2013
#636: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:13:56 PM

This show is built on puns, you can't just change words like this.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#637: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:15:23 PM

If someone who can actually speak Japanese doesn't mind, neither should you.

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#638: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:15:47 PM

No, Bakemonogatari is built on puns. This show just happens to have a lot of them. There's a difference.

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danna45 Owner of Dead End from Wagnaria Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#639: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:15:48 PM

It's not a word, it's a Japanese name, written in English, nothing's going to be lost since everything's going to be lost in English anyways.

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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#640: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:17:16 PM

yeah,. spoeaking as someone who's ne ver studies japanese? the pun is lost on me anyhow.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#641: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:18:57 PM

I'm kinda with danna here, actually. The りゅ sound doesn't match up to the letters 'ryu' anyway, so it's hardly a horrible lapse in accuracy either way.

In any case, spelling it Ryuuko or Ryuko isn't going to change the meaning of her name, since the people who know the meaning know enough not to care overmuch about the English spelling of her name, and it's not like we're altering kanji here.

^And the people who don't know won't care, really.

edited 23rd Oct '13 4:19:22 PM by RedSavant

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#642: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:18:59 PM

Man, this is like watching someone who only finished PSY 101 ranting about psychology.

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#643: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:20:53 PM

Everyone likes to show off what they know. It only becomes awkward once you have the poor fortune to try doing it around someone who knows more about it than you do tongue

edited 23rd Oct '13 4:21:05 PM by KSPAM

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#644: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:22:52 PM

@savant, sorry bout that, I'm on the phone, I have no idea how to type smaller letters...yeah.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#645: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:27:34 PM

No worries. =)

In any case, for those wondering, I can't actually find a pun in Ryuuko's name. It's meaningful, since Matoi (纏) can be read as 'clad in' or 'one who wears'. The first kanji in 'Ryuuko', 流, can mean 'flow' (as in being swept around, like the wanderer she is), to shed blood or tears, or to be in exile. According to Jisho, at least.

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#646: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:32:27 PM

Would think that she is Shedding the Fresh Blood (she is) Clad In.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#647: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:34:51 PM

Definitely works, given the story, but that's a bit of a loose interpretation from just the name itself.

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SiennaCiShan Since: May, 2013
#648: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:39:30 PM

No, Bakemonogatari is built on puns. This show just happens to have a lot of them. There's a difference.

Shows what you know.

Imaishi whole idea for this show started from the fact that fascism and fashion are homophones in japanese.

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#649: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:44:37 PM

Probably pulling on thin air, but considering 'ryu' with a different kanji means dragon, and transformation scene senketsu kinda looks like a dragon(when ryuuko gets consumed), perhaps possibly a pun on 'child of the dragon'? Or does the extra う screw me over?

^not doubting but imma need source for this

edited 23rd Oct '13 4:45:21 PM by danna45

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#650: Oct 23rd 2013 at 4:45:59 PM

They don't sound that similar to me. ファッション and ファシズム, yes?

^Nope, it's the enlongated u sound that makes it dragon. You're A-OK.

edited 23rd Oct '13 4:46:49 PM by RedSavant

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