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Its actually Bill Cipher

dude got beaten twice by two kids and then got suckered with a twin trick.

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Edgar and Bowler Hat Guy are definitely up there (but Bowler Hat Guy is Doris' henchman more than the Big Bad). I don't seem to remember Prince John being all that intelligent either. The Queen of Hearts is a moron, but so are most characters in Wonderland.

Hook isn't really outsmarted by the kids so much as Peter, who is an embodiment of chaos. He's not all that smart, but he's not on the level of Edgar imo.

Edited by PhiSat on Mar 25th 2024 at 4:15:39 AM

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Prince John may think with his wallet a lot more than his brain, but he can very easily turn into Beware the Silly Ones.

I like to keep my audience riveted.

No one's dumb like Gaston

Sucks his thumb like Gaston

Is deserving a kick in the bum like Gaston.

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Yeah, he’s so dumb, he thinks a book that doesn’t have pictures is appalling. XD

I like to keep my audience riveted.

John isn't really dumb. He's just very gullible. It doesn't help that Robin Hood is a master of disguise.

It's been 3000 years…

Yeah, John was easily flattered, but when it comes down it he knows exactly how to wield his power for maximum effect. He's not like Scar who's very good at one specific thing and completely incompetent at everything else.

As for Gaston, he's Book Dumb but actually quite intelligent. Not to mention in another universe, he ends up a super-genius.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 25th 2024 at 4:54:22 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Tbf, John figured out Robin was the stork in disguise during the tournament due to how well he was playing.

With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation

Also Gaston is terrifying at what he is capable of. He is quite cunning.

It seems less that Gaston's dumb, and more that Gaston believes using your brain is for dweebs ("Le Fou, I'm afraid I've been thinking." "A dangerous pastime." "I know.") and will only resort to it in drastic circumstances.

No one believes using your brain is for dweebs like Gaston!

No one is terrifying like Gaston!

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Mar 25th 2024 at 9:19:39 AM

Nowhere as stupid as Edgar, who has the most absurd train of thought of them all, but...

Mother Gothel was... kind of dumb when you think about it?

All she had to do was asking Rapunzel "Hey, look, if you don't keep on letting me handle your hair every day I'll age into dust, do you want me to age into dust?" Despite everything Gothel was still Rapunzel's mother figure, even after the reveal it would have been very doubtful that Rapunzel would just let her die out of her spite. And before the reveal Rapunzel would have gladly let Gothel live on, no need to micromanage her that much.

Maleficent is also rather stupid in that for sixteen years she doesn't bother asking the henchmen, who she knows well are imbeciles, if they know they aren't supposed to be still looking for a baby. All she needed to do was sending the crow from the start. The crow found that girl in a single day! The crow was the most intelligent person in that castle when you think about it.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Mar 25th 2024 at 6:39:04 AM

To be fair, the crow only found them because the fairies happened to let up on their rule to not use magic and got into that stupid fight over what colour the dress should be right when he was looking.

If not for that, they'd have probably made it without triggering the curse.

Then again, all Maleficent really had to do is just watch for when the king and queen meet with their daughter again, so maybe there was no chance to dodge that bullet.

Plus, if she really wanted to make things happen, should could have just immediately cast another curse if they managed to avert the first one.

One Strip! One Strip!

Not to mention that crows are some of the smartest birds there are.

I like to keep my audience riveted.

I do wonder if Maleficent wouldn't curse them if she was invited.

Though the implication is that they didn't invite her because she likes to go around doing that shit. It was a catch-22.

But that's The Fair Folk for you.

Disgusted, but not surprised

At this point, I'm amazed that more fantasy universes haven't had their monarch characters grab as much Cold Iron as they can possibly get their hands on and use it all to build the biggest anti-fey barricades that they can.

That's what King Stefan actually does in the live action Maleficent movie (you know, the one that made Maleficent the hero because Disney are cowards). He still loses, but he puts up a better fight than you'd expect.

Part of the problem might be that cold iron is hard to come by in some settings. At least when it's not just plain old iron.

Seriously, what the hell even is cold iron.

Edited by M84 on Mar 25th 2024 at 10:46:07 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

There is a question about why didn't she just kill or curse the king and take over, since we only see three fairies who are weaker than her and she could just kill all the soldiers of the king.

Because she's a sadist who knows cursing the king's baby daughter would hurt him and the kingdom even more on an emotional level.

The Fair Folk everyone.

I also don't think Maleficent actually gives a shit about taking over the kingdom. Why would she? She's a powerful fairy sorceress — human politics mean little to her.

Edited by M84 on Mar 25th 2024 at 11:01:37 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

Because she's a fairy. Fairies don't want to rule human kingdoms. They'd much rather do nasty things to them for kicks.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Maleficent was insulted. Insulted. She doesn't want to kill anyone, and she certainly doesn't want to rule over anyone. She just wants them to suffer.

Edited by Robbery on Mar 25th 2024 at 8:58:06 AM

Having recently rewatched Tangled, I don't think there was ever any indication that Gothel never told Rapunzel that she was using her hair to keep her young. Rapunzel is also fully aware her hair can heal people, as she uses it to heal Flynn's injured hand. That said, yeah she probably didn't need to keep her locked in that tower.

With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation

Eh. Sometimes evil doesn't think things through.

One Strip! One Strip!

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