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then what's their real name
Who Am I?
I was responding to Meklar's link.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
scratching at .8, just hopin'
Ahh, with context sarcasm is much easier to detect.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
3 The actual organization publishing the idea apparently calls itself the 'Commission on the Theft of American Intellectual Property'. In other words, some blatantly contrived puppet organization set up by the aforementioned MAFIAA.
hilarious, given all movie and music proceeds in the US never benefit the creators of intellectual property.
"In distress", my ass.
Department of Homeland Security forced to reveal monitored keywords on social networking sites.
(Second page of the article has the complete list of keywords.)
Now you, too, can fuck with DHS. Be aware that they can fuck back, and do it a lot harder if they get a wild hair up their ass, though. It's all fun and games until the 3am knockless warrant and you wake up to a gun in your face. 
(Yes, I know that's not how it works.)
All your safe space are belong to Trump
Gunpla is amazing!
Am I the only one who doesn't mind this much?
The phone thing doesn't bother me because they need a warrant to access it and its not conversations.
The internet one...kind of worse yeah, but they just look for key words, so they probably just have a guy glance at it and go "Eh" and just move on for 99.9% of those.
Companies screen your emails already anyway, and no one cares, but when the Government does its a HUGE deal apparently.
edited 7th Jun '13 9:40:36 AM by Thorn14
I'm not fussed, either. <shrugs>
Gunpla is amazing!
I do however see this can easily be exploited but sometimes a spade is a spade.
I mean, what "nefarious" purpose would the government have to spy on those key words other than tracking down terrorists?
Heavy handed? Sure, but its not going to affect me.
Its like I don't see the point of people bitching about cameras in UK. No one is going "MWAHAHAH WE ARE NOW WATCHING RANDOM PEOPLE WALK DOWN THE STREET MWAHAHAHAHAHAAH"
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Question Thorn, what nationality are you?
It was an honor
Who Am I?
It's not a warrant in the traditional sense, but a blanket permission to collect information on nearly everybody. See here. Right now, they don't appear to be misusing the data for political purposes. But how long will that last?
There's been some blowback. The Republican Congressman who helped draft the Patriot Act now says we need to impose more restrictions on the government's ability to conduct surveillance. "...“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,” Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,” he added."
Gunpla is amazing!
American and not proud.
I love it when people who voted for this shit are now suddenly going "HOW DARE THEY!" so they can look good.
edited 7th Jun '13 9:56:00 AM by Thorn14
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Oh. I'm American and very proud. Just not about this government snooping. I ask because it seems British folks, and Europeans in general, don't seem to really mind government surveillance and civil liberties violations.
It was an honor
Who Am I?
The problem will arise when they start classifying the Occupy Movement, or the Tea Party, as potentially national security threats. Or "detains" someone indefinately because they used the wrong key words in their emails overseas.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
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Exactly.
Mainly because we often don't see them as "violations". <shrugs> To gain the liberty to live as you wish and not e.g. get blown up trying to get the bus, you sometimes need to sacrifice a little elsewhere. Woot.
It's why you make sure to install checks and balance to try to maintain a balance between investigative data collection... and jerkass dictatorial stuff. Also, there's a bonus to investigative data collection: you can catch a number of crimes. I don't mind if paedophiles get caught on the web thanks to this... when the people doing the snooping were originally looking for terrorists. <shrugs again>
edited 7th Jun '13 10:14:40 AM by Euodiachloris
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History has shown that many a society that devolved into a dictatorship had similar reasoning.
It was an honor
He Who Got Gud
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. The road to dictatorship is a slippery slope of losing rights.
The most edgy person on the Internet.
And, being terrified of slippery slopes on a Berserk Button topic means sometimes necessary actions aren't made, and lives are lost in wastage — and/or other areas go begging for attention. Your point?
edited 7th Jun '13 10:52:15 AM by Euodiachloris
He Who Got Gud
Should we give up some rights? Absolutly. My point was that there is a point where we have given up too many. There is such a thing as too much freedom(chaos), and such a thing as too much security(living in a box forever).
The most edgy person on the Internet.
Fine. But, I still think America has a cultural hangup when it comes to surveillance. And, I think I know who and what to blame... <_<
Personally I don't want to be monitored all the time in my private life, and I'm in law enforcement.
Privacy is really important to me. We need to cut this big brother shit out. I like knowing that I don't have to drive out 50 miles into a national forest to know that I'm truly alone(aside from animals).
