Bravely Default Series

Fair enough.

It's also far easier to get Pirate/Swordmaster set up for big damage than Dark Knight, though.

I'm still salty that they screwed up multihit moves like Torrent and Heaven's Gate so they're thoroughly outclassed.

So she's gonna sound like an angry Texan in the english port. Also expecting Exorcist guy to be censored to hell and back.

I doubt it. Gore is fine in the US and the job has no personality if the coats aren't covered in blood (and it's so thoroughly soaked you could mistaken it for just having random spatterings of white instead.)

Yeah, we can have serial rapists and children murdering each other with their bare hands but god forbid somebody shows a bit of skin!

If this really is as censored as I fear, I may not buy it (as much as I loved the first game), or at least wait to buy it used.

Well that's gonna be the case for other future games ported to the US that are not Mature or Teen rated then. :V

The first Bravely Default is rated T though.

Also, I can't help but feel as though changing a Native American outfit to a Cowboy is kinda like changing a Jewish outfit to a Nazi uniform.

A lot of people are pointing out how the Tomahawk (which is an entirely misleading and inappropriate name given what the class does) is arguably already cultural appropriation not unlike all the faux-Native American mascots and characters prevalent in American culture.

So it's not entirely misguided or offensive for them to think to change the name and/or costume, which is hardly representative or accurate to any form of native American culture anyway, especially for the females.

Though it does occur to me to wonder why it wasn't a cowboy outfit to begin with.

Like, I know japan coasted through the intricacies of the US expansion westward, but I KNOW they know from our westerns that it was the cowboys who were stereotyped as gunslingers, not the natives.

They did eventually pick up on guns around the midpoint of the 1800s to stay competitive, though, and Amy's backstory seems to take queues from the native underdogs vs. dominating white invaders narrative, with the implication that her tribe was assimilated at some point.

I don't think they meant any harm in using native American elements for the job design either way, but I can also understand why they localizers would want to change it.

To be honest, who even cares about "cultural appropriation" in videogames? In the first game we have Ninjas (who don't look anything like their historical counterparts), Pirates (who don't look anything like their historical counterparts), Spell Fencers (who look like stereotypical Arabs), and so on, and that game sold just fine.

And now we're talking about replacing one cultural appropriation with another. I could understand changing the name, but censoring an entire class is a bridge too far in my opinion. If a game has so many elements that would make it "unsellable" in the West if uncensored, why even localize the game in the first place?

edited 22nd Nov '15 11:54:38 AM by MoreThanBored

Only went there because of that wild jewish-nazi claim. Yeah, fantasy classes are fantasy classes, but there's always political reasons for everything.

Personally don't think it's that big of a deal - her outfit's just as skimpy if that's your jam.

It's also unconfirmed at this point to be finalized. Maybe they were just testing it or the people who run that website posted images earlier than they should of.

edited 22nd Nov '15 11:58:09 AM by Hashil

I'm not personally offended, but I do see why they'd change it.

I simply hate censorship on principle. I don't think that you can claim to love a medium while also supporting its censorship.

Also what happened to the Native American population basically was a genocide, look up the Trail of Tears.

edited 22nd Nov '15 12:03:43 PM by MoreThanBored

Yes.

But this is probably in response to designs like this being a thing a lot of native Americans want to see no longer done, in fiction or otherwise. See also the Red Skins and the pressure they've had for decades to change their mascot, among many others.

Again, I feel like turning the class into a cowboy makes things about ten times worse in that regard if that's what they were going for.

I mean, cowboys are already caricatures. Nobody is gonna get offended if you don a cowboy hat and put a piece of straw in your mouth and start saying yeehaw and howdy.

Re: censorship of revealing clothing.

I personally think there's a distinct difference between terrible imagery used to horrify (violence, death, sickness) and terrible imagery used to titillate.

I personally would've preferred that shit like the bravo bikini (and the scenes involving it) had never existed in the first place, but that's not how it went.

And the bad Empire wears Pickelhauben, is named after the German word for "Shine" and has a leader who's an self declared emperor and uses German abilities. But of course that won't be censored.

I'm glad Yulyana isn't around from all indication. That guy was a weirdo.

With terrible taste in hair.

Mind you, the eastern Vampire costume kept to the spirit of the outfit. It still looks like an absolute travesty.

Cowboys are already cariactures

If I said that Native American warriors are already caricatures, how mad would people get? If something offends you, don't use it or don't use that class. You shouldn't get to tell the consumer what is and isn't "safe" or "problematic" for them to consume; that's for the consumer to decide.

And if the consumer says they prefer that something was changed for their region? Because that's how I feel about the Vampire outfit, though I don't feel it was changed enough. I'd have preferred a snazzy suit like the other form of the costume.

Yeah, I'd have preferred either a Victorian dress or another shnazzy tuxedo.