Bravely Default Series

It's a fine ending. I don't know why people call it the bad ending. I would call it the "short ending".

Regarding the possibility of having a "reserve" party, I don't think there's any point in this kind of battle system. There's really no difference between characters, so having more than a full party is just meaningless.

edited 5th Sep '14 9:42:02 PM by Clarste

Well, Ouroborus is either ageless or at least operating on a lifespan normally reserved for stars. He also has access to an ill-defined amount of time travel via the holy pillars. So, if there's any opportunity for him to do his plan again, you can pretty much bet he's gonna do it. Retroactively, if need be.

Otherwise, yeah. It's not so much a bad ending, or even a not-good ending. It's more of an incomplete ending.

The silly thing is that the full ending basically requires the party have knowledge they could only have had from going through the short ending. Which wouldn't be out of place if they gave even a handwave for why they would.

edited 5th Sep '14 9:44:01 PM by Enlong

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Even well done ones can bring a good deal of controversy to them.

Just look at what happened to The Old Republic's Revan fight.

edited 5th Sep '14 9:45:16 PM by ekimmak

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

Huh. Well, we'll see.

Re: previous character fights: one of my favorite videogame bosses, period, is Dante when playing as Nero in Devil May Cry 4. There's also a few examples in Kingdom Hearts, though it's debatable whether they count (Lingering Will, Roxas, Coded!Roxas, Riku).

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

The reason it's a "bad ending" is because Airy already linked together enough worlds for Ouroborous to the point where there's only a single digit number left. There's a pretty good chance that he will come in the future, and that might mean any number of worlds are destroyed.

Well, the chasm(s) closed up in the short ending, which probably means that linking work was undone.

That said, Ouroborus is perfectly willing to wait out however long he needs to create another evil one, and for the crystal to regrow. And when he does, he can abuse the time-warp nature of the Holy Pillar some more.

I have a message from another time...

Ah, my mistake. I'd forgotten about that.

I'm going to start a new game from scratch, and see whether all my knowledge of upcoming bosses and how each job develops will help me with it.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

Beat the game about as thoroughly as I could. Final boss (all five stages) didn't land a single hit on me. Gotta say, the part of the ending leading up to the secret movie came sorta out of left field. Also sad to see that Ringabel chose to go back to his own world. Also, if he apparently went back in time, why couldn't the others do the same? Do the different worlds exist in separate timelines?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

here's a puzzler:

If Ringabel returned to his world, and killed the Evil One before she killed everyone and dropped him into the Holy Pillar... how is it that the rest of the game still happened?

I have a message from another time...

Time travel is one of those weird concepts that you best not think too deeply about, or it'll either cause a migraine, or the universe to collapse in on itself.

Presumably, it's the same sort of mechanic that allows Agnes of one world can simultaneously provide warnings to so many worlds at once.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

Blame the Timey-Wimey Ball, I suppose.

I just found something fun.

Qada points out that his weapon sacrificed ten thousand to kill a hundred thousand, and asks if the Kamiizumi could do better in conventional warfare.

Come the final loop, and he uses a hundred troops to drive off a hundred thousand.

Of course, my memory for these numbers is vague, so I don't know if I'm getting them right, but the average gist of it is fun.

edited 10th Sep '14 10:09:59 PM by ekimmak

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

Hundred versus fifty thousand. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

True, they weren't actually killing anyone in that battle, but it's pretty easy to see why the Shieldbearers were losing a war they had numerical superiority in until the vestal and co started killing leaders and stealing resources.

And it's another thing that puts Qada in his place. That is never a bad thing.

edited 11th Sep '14 4:46:57 AM by ekimmak

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

That's... actually pretty clever. Kudos for details like that. (still less kudos for the big picture of the plot, but I should really stop being bitter like that)

Details on a new job in Second

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia

I just saw an absolutely genius way of getting around Dark Breath before you have the health pool to use damage dispersion.

Spirit Barrier. Use Provoke to ensure that he goes for that character, and they simply lose all their MP.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.

...once.

Pick one, Siliconera. Digging the class, though. Looks like they're branching out a bit from the Final Fantasy roots.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

You know, for a class called "Tomahawk", I wasn't expecting guns, but eh.

By the way, Siliconera, all this focus on Magnolia showing off the new classes is making me extremely convinced that Yu is the main character. Totally.

I have a message from another time...

Is Vampire returning? Blue magic is my fave.

Well, DeRosso should be alive, assuming that the one who sacrificed himself was from the world that the final chapter took place in and not the one from Chapter 4.

Is anyone else disappointed with Mighty Guard not being one of the Vampire's genomes? I consider it to be easily the best recurring Blue Magic spell in FF history, and yet it's not even in the game.

Hm. Seems balanced enough.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

Well, this isn't Final Fantasy.

Besides, Vampire gets so many other cool and good tools.

edited 14th Sep '14 2:10:47 AM by Folt

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