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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#176: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:10:42 PM

Hmm, I guess this will help me in my deck building. So BB Bodyguard and Lord of Arena are underpowered? I'm not sure if that makes Shieldmasta better than them, though, I feel like being a strong taunter is extremely valuable. The high attack has often discouraged my opponent from attacking me.

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#177: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:12:48 PM

The attack of a taunt minion is only useful if it can finish off something hitting it; anything over that is wasted.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#178: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:15:59 PM

How is it wasted? I still use it to attack the opposing hero while they won't attack me.

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#179: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:25:47 PM

Hypothetical: you face a bunch of 2/1 minions with your 5/4 Taunt minion. It dies in two hits, having only dealt two damage.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#180: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:27:14 PM

Never said it works in every single situation.

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#181: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:29:44 PM

The point is not that attack is worthless, just that health is much more useful than attack at high values.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#182: Dec 7th 2013 at 3:34:18 PM

I already got that from the article. I still don't think they're necessarily worse than Shieldmasta because they can be used differently, to deter attacks from stronger minions that would sacrifice themselves doing so.

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#183: Dec 7th 2013 at 8:02:43 PM

I just pulled off an evil, evil combo on my priest. My rogue opponent had me down to 2 health using some really crazy combos, but I had pulled out my Darkscale Healer the previous turn and given it Power Word: Shield plus Divine Spirit. Well, I had another Divine Spirit and an Inner Fire. My 27/27 minion finished her off in one hit. surprised

edited 8th Dec '13 8:19:26 AM by Fighteer

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#184: Dec 7th 2013 at 8:13:10 PM

surprised

Holy shit, that's awesome. I've been meaning to make a Priest deck for a while since I've enjoyed playing what I have of them, and that just makes me want to even more.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#185: Dec 8th 2013 at 7:52:06 PM

Beating people to death with a Lightwell is pretty entertaining.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#186: Dec 9th 2013 at 11:41:27 AM

Updated card changes and cap on gold in play mode coming soon.

  • Gold earned in Play mode capped at 100 per day. All other modes unaffected.
  • Shattered Sun Cleric now 3/2, down from 3/3.
  • Argent Commander now 4/2, down from 4/3.
  • Flame Imp's Battlecry now deals 3 damage to the player, up from 2.
  • Mindcontrol's mana cost is now 10, up from 8.
  • Starving Buzzard now 2/1, down from 2/2.
  • Unleash the Hounds has been reworked and now reads: “(4) For each enemy minion, summon a 1/1 Hound with Charge”.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
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#187: Dec 9th 2013 at 11:46:09 AM

"Gold earned in Play mode capped at 100 per day."

I presume that refers to the 10 gold you earn for every 3 wins in Play mode (ranked or unranked) as opposed to gold from achievements, quests, and Arena wins? 30 wins per day is some pretty impressive dedication.

The other balancing changes look good. Mind Control is a very strong card and I sweat every time I play against a Priest and they reach the 8 mana mark with cards left in their hand.

Isn't Argent Commander the one with Charge and Divine Shield? That card makes me cry whenever I see it played. But then again, so does Lightspawn.

edited 9th Dec '13 11:48:22 AM by Fighteer

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#188: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:28:14 PM

[up] Yeah, I followed the link, and they say exactly that. Quests, achievements, Arena gold are all unaffected. Frankly, I'm surprised they even needed to cap it. Are people really playing that much?

Argent Commander nerf isn't really that huge, since his health only matters after he's served his purpose (which is taking out something big or clearing a Taunter out of the way of your team and still being a 4-attack body).

Mind Control change is probably warranted. Definitely makes me less likely to literally pick it over everything else in Arena.

Shattered Sun Cleric is still good. Starving Buzzard is now more starving (good). Flame Imp seems quite rough.

Unleash the Hounds nerf is harsh though. Not that I'm complaining, I need something to cut from my Hunter deck anyway!

EDIT: New Unleash has amazing synergy with the Buzzard and Knife Juggler though. Flesheating Ghoul and Hyena too, actually. Hmm...

edited 9th Dec '13 12:31:18 PM by disruptorfe404

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#189: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:30:39 PM

Unleash the Hounds hurts — buffing your minions and giving them Charge is pretty nasty if you've already built up a beast-spam deck. About the only thing that hurts more is when a Shaman puts out a bunch of totems and then uses Bloodlust... not that I've ever done that (whistles innocently).

Edit: I kind of wish that there could be some kind of a nerf for 3-turn kill Murloc decks...

edited 9th Dec '13 12:43:11 PM by Fighteer

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#190: Dec 9th 2013 at 1:34:30 PM

So glad Blizzard is tuning down Unleash the Beats. That card was just frustrating.

And I'm annoyed at the flame imp change, but I can understand it.

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#191: Dec 10th 2013 at 12:28:18 AM

Mind Control haunts my nightmares, I'm so glad it got nerfed.[lol]

Pity about Shattered Sun Cleric. I ran it in all my decks and got a lot of usage out of it - whiiich is probably because it was too powerful.

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#192: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:14:03 AM

Man, why does Blizzard running weekly maintenance on World Of Warcraft have to affect Hearthstone as well? sad

I'm working from home because of the snow day and am now bored.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#193: Dec 10th 2013 at 9:53:34 AM

[up] There is a reason for it.

Beta 1.0.0.4217 Patch notes!

edited 10th Dec '13 9:53:48 AM by tclittle

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#195: Dec 10th 2013 at 12:34:01 PM

The ranking reset is killing me! sad

I'm thinking at this rate I could do better in Arena! tongue

EDIT: Nope. Just as bad. sad

edited 10th Dec '13 2:18:11 PM by IntrepidSovereign

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#196: Dec 10th 2013 at 12:40:00 PM

I hope golden Heroes aren't too hard to get. Time to actually pay more attention to building a good Mage deck to rock the Ranked matches with!

I wonder what the restructured Arena rewards are like.

Farnion Since: May, 2011
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#198: Dec 10th 2013 at 1:42:25 PM

Thanks, champ! I see some screenshots of epic amounts of gold at 12 wins (a good thing).

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#199: Dec 11th 2013 at 1:53:52 AM

Wait, you're guaranteed to get a pack in arena? Fuck, I should totally be doing that instead of buying packs.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#200: Dec 11th 2013 at 2:10:22 AM

Well, it costs more...

But yeah, Arena is where I get my packs.


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