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SilentColossus Since: Feb, 2010
#41801: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:33:03 PM

I think she was blaming Ruby for the fusion because Ruby was a grunt, while Sapphire was an aristocrat.

edited 29th Aug '16 8:33:15 PM by SilentColossus

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41802: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:35:03 PM

It was a little from column A a little from column B, I think.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#41803: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:43:19 PM

It's why if the Diamonds are all defeated, they're going to have to be revealed for what they are publicly: cruel, petty dictators. They need to lose their status in Homeworld.

I wonder if that will be enough. From the very little we've seen, Gems seem to believe you're supposed to lord it over your lessers.

SilentColossus Since: Feb, 2010
#41804: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:52:22 PM

They're also held up as objectively perfect. Peridot's abandonment of Yellow Diamond was finalized by her outburst: Yellow Diamond isn't the rational, perfect figure Peridot imagined. Instead, Yellow Diamond is a petty brute who is driven by grudges and anger.

They're need to be revealed as pathetic to Homeworld.

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#41805: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:24:29 PM

I find it hard to believe that the Diamonds created Gems as a species, as opposed to overseeing the creation of all Gems currently alive, while themselves being a product of a society that ended up with them at the top that only they are old enough to remember. There was probably Gem society before the four Diamonds we specifically know of took over.

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
#41806: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:25:34 PM

The issue is. Gems are immortal. Unless there was a massacre somewhere along the lines, there should at least be some Gems still alive from before the Diamonds if the Diamonds weren't the first.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#41807: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:27:01 PM

[up][up]The answer is: probably.

Only the Lore Masters truly know the answer.

edited 29th Aug '16 11:27:33 PM by randomness4

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#41808: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:29:56 PM

Might be a bit cliche but I've always wondering if someone or something made the Diamonds and then they tried to sort of replicate the process and ended up with the Gem Empire.

Oh really when?
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#41809: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:33:37 PM

Or the Diamondo got the knowledge of how they were made and tried to make more of themselves.

Same thing basically.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41810: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:40:32 PM

The issue is. Gems are immortal.
Are they? If they could die of old age, they'd live long enough we'd never get to see it.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#41811: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:49:24 PM

Til the end of the universe, and if they manage to survive all the implosions...the only things left to do are "stop", kill eachother, or wait until the universe resets.

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#41812: Aug 29th 2016 at 11:52:19 PM

Or they run out of stored energy in their gems in some 10s of thousands of years, we can't say one way or another.

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Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#41813: Aug 30th 2016 at 12:18:09 AM

4. I have to say, sometimes, it's hard to believe that the Peridot we're seeing in the show today is the same morose, emotionless, calm and collected gem that we saw in season one.

I mean, ever in her first appearances, she showed that is wasn't too hard to rile her up.

Oh God! Natural light!
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#41814: Aug 30th 2016 at 12:32:53 AM

Just generalizing it to season one is wrong anyway. It's "only" in that first appearance where she's anything close to "emotionless".

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#41815: Aug 30th 2016 at 3:12:41 AM

It's more like she was being analytical because it was all she was focused on. With the CG hounding on her, reluctantly befriending Steven, turning her back on YD, and stopping the Cluster, Peridot's had time to emotionally develope. She still has plenty of moments where she's colder and more withdrawn when studying something or showing confusion with others' feelings;; a process she's still trying to figure out.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41817: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:39:12 AM

I don't think it works very well tbh.

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Ready to see true darkness
#41818: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:47:38 AM

Even if there are some gems from earlier, gems as we know them were made by the Diamonds for the sake of their empire, not the other way around.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#41819: Aug 30th 2016 at 10:29:34 AM

The fact that Peridot goes out of her way to say that all Gems were made to serve the Diamonds makes me think there'll at least be a hint as to where they come from. Or how they got in power.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#41820: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:22:52 PM

I've said it before, but I think this show has great potential to have the new rebellion go full-scale. I don't mean to say that the show is bad in any way when I say this, but the show feels like a prequel to a much more (for lack of a better word) eventful show. Obviously, Homeworld coming back to Earth and the Crystal Gems having to fight for it again is somewhere down the line, but it feels so far down the line that it seems like the show's going to end before it actually happens.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#41821: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:24:40 PM

Before you said it was a sequel...based on a similar thing.

edited 30th Aug '16 4:25:09 PM by randomness4

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#41822: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:28:53 PM

It's the sequel to a war story that's the prequel to a sitcom that's a sequel leading into a West Wing set on Homeworld.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#41823: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:29:54 PM

[up][up] My overall point is that it feels like both a sequel to a show about an alien race's rebellion on Earth and a prequel to a show about the rebellion leader's son trying to take up the mantle from the last few remaining members.

edited 30th Aug '16 4:30:08 PM by BlueBlaze64

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#41824: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:34:41 PM

[up]You could said is like OT of Star wars and Steve is luke.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#41825: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:39:51 PM

Regarding the diamonds: Well I strongly suspect they are the product of some sort of society. If not gems than a race of Abusive Precursors who created them presumably as living weapons, or something of that sort.


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