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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#326: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:22:22 PM

So, how long do you guys think it'll take for Frederator to basically say "Hmmm, this VRV thing isn't working out. Maybe we should try a different method of showing our stuff without aggravating our audience but also doesn't give us budget issues."

My gut instinct tells me it would take 2-3 months at the very least. And hey, on the subject of different methods, what methods do you guys think they should try?

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#327: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:28:30 PM

Probably when they realize that they're not getting as good of ratings or as much views as they got when it was on Youtube.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#328: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:34:38 PM

[up] And how will they be able to determine that with VRV?

I mean with You Tube videos, you can tell when a video sucks or not by determining how many like or dislikes it gets and whether the comments are mostly positive or not, but how do you figure that stuff out with whatever VRV is?

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#329: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:42:13 PM

The same way they probably do it with tv channel apps like Disney and Cartoon Network. -shrugs- Which I have no idea how it works, but I hear they're able to see how much views their episodes get on their apps.

NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#330: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:46:34 PM

There was a comment on YT that suggested they make their own streaming website for their own series and shorts and allow only certain advertising on the site to help their funds while they can also control the money that they make through ads and merchandise. But like Trump, they only listen to themselves and think what they're doing is right, and will most likely lose everything after time passes.

"We be we baby!"
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#331: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:56:58 PM

They'd have to pay to keep a streaming site up though.

NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#332: Jan 8th 2017 at 2:19:43 PM

It's still better than having at 20% of their earnings going to VRV. Payment for maintenance on your own site is virtually cheaper.

"We be we baby!"
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#333: Jan 8th 2017 at 2:32:43 PM

That is definitely true. Honestly I'm guessing that this was all Frederator's idea, Cartoon Hangover might not have had a choice.

NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#334: Jan 8th 2017 at 3:06:40 PM

From Robo Zombie on Bee and Puppycat:

Incase your wondering, VRV is owned by Ellation, who also owns Crunchyroll. Ellation is in turned owned by AT&T, who also own Rooster Teeth, Direct TV and are trying to merge with Time Warner (HBO, Cartoon Network, CNN, TNT, TBS, E League) Frederator/Rainmaker actually isn't part of the Mega conglomerate that is AT&T, which is odd tbh.

So it seems like this may be their way of trying to buy out CH and frederator. And if I know my contracts, they can't break out of it if they sold the rights to VRV.

But I may just be a pessimist. Let's just see where this goes.

"We be we baby!"
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#335: Jan 8th 2017 at 3:15:35 PM

How is that even possible?! Frederator just got bought by Rainmaker Entertainment last year!

NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#336: Jan 8th 2017 at 3:17:27 PM

Now that is something I didn't know.

"We be we baby!"
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#337: Jan 10th 2017 at 7:46:37 AM

At least Bravest Warriors is on their channel.

YO. Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie.
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#338: Jan 10th 2017 at 9:13:11 AM

Ah, so they caved into our demands. Good.

"We be we baby!"
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#339: Jan 10th 2017 at 9:26:47 AM

[up]Watch the whole video. It was just this one.

This song needs more love.
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#340: Jan 10th 2017 at 9:42:35 AM

Won't the others follow?

"We be we baby!"
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#341: Jan 10th 2017 at 3:05:19 PM

Episode 2 is already up on the VRV app.

CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#342: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:12:17 PM

OK so Im sensing a ton of negativity here, so let me cut to section of a video that explains whats going on here.

Skip to 9:25

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#343: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:14:47 PM

Could you provide a summery of some kind if you have watched the video?

New theme music also a box
CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#344: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:23:22 PM

Well, if you want to sparknotes version: Changes with the way Youtube gives money to content creators is based on time spent on the video itself. Animators especially suffer for this, since months of work can add up to like....10 minutes, which is not enough to help sustain it. Even though BW is one of the best animated shows on youtube, it cannot sustain itself under the current system and needs funds to stay afloat.

Super short version: Despite being extremely successful, hangover is screwed over by youtube and is using the paywall as a last resort.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:26:39 PM by CountofBleck

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#346: Jan 15th 2017 at 2:50:11 PM

Ok, i can accept that, but they should have told us this ahead of time.

"We be we baby!"
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#347: Jan 27th 2017 at 5:00:41 PM

You can find episodes 2 and 3 of season 3 online now, I'm just not gonna say where.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#348: Jan 27th 2017 at 5:14:48 PM

Randomness can probably guess where...

[few seconds later]

And Randomness even guessed correctly...

YO. Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie.
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#349: Jan 27th 2017 at 5:16:00 PM

Yeah, it probably wasn't hard. But I didn't want to get into any trouble just in case.

LikeVileVillians from Russia Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#350: Feb 13th 2018 at 4:03:16 AM

8 episodes of season 4 is out and first 2 is free to watch- https://vrv.co/series/GYP8VJJQY/Bravest-Warriors?utm_source=partner_cartoon_hangover&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tumblr_gifs

I am slowly getting sick of Chris/Beth Will They or Wont They plot so much, i started to ship Chris with Plum.

edited 13th Feb '18 4:05:45 AM by LikeVileVillians


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