Needs Help: Musical Pastiche

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1 Twentington1st Aug 2012 06:06:59 PM from Somewhere , Relationship Status: Desperate
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Musical Pastiche seems to be a total overlap of Suspiciously Similar Song. The descriptiion says that Suspiciously Similar Song is supposed to be written from scratch as opposed to "Smells Like Teen Spirit with a few notes tweaked to dodge copyrights", but Suspiciously Similar Song's description disagrees.
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2 Xtifr1st Aug 2012 06:22:01 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Oh yeah, I briefly looked at this back when we (and by "we" I mostly mean I) cleaned up Pastiche. This is also a misdefinition (though not as bad as our old definition of Pastiche). As far as the actual term goes, I don't see much difference between a regular pastiche and a musical one.

I suggest making this a redirect to Pastiche, and moving the examples either there or to Suspiciously Similar Song, depending on which category they fit. (Songs that don't fit in either probably don't need a trope.)
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This needs a rewrite and examples cleaning. What the definition probably should be is when a show rearranges one of its themes, "notably a show's theme tune," to resemble some well-known piece.
4 Xtifr2nd Aug 2012 08:14:50 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Then it needs a new name too, since that's not what pastiche means.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
5 lu12710th Oct 2012 01:48:41 AM from 空蝉 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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6 Xtifr10th Oct 2012 01:17:44 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Ok, the name is wrong and is inviting misuse, and the definition seems hopelessly similar to Suspiciously Similar Song. We have two options: A) merge the examples into Pastiche and/or Suspiciously Similar Song (and presumably make the name into a redirect to Pastiche), or B) try to come up with a unique definition (and new name) for this, which seems implausible to me, but hey, I'm just one guy.

Should we have a crowner? Frankly, I think that if we're making both a new name and a new definition, it would be easier to simply start at YKTTW instead of trying to adapt some random existing page, but, whatever.

edited 10th Oct '12 1:20:18 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
I say merge with Suspiciously Similar Song due to the overlap with the actual tropes. And nothing is really lost, since a lot of the examples in the list are actually examples of Recurring Riff.
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