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Deadlock Clock: Oct 13th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Aug 1st 2012 at 6:06:59 PM

Musical Pastiche seems to be a total overlap of Suspiciously Similar Song. The descriptiion says that Suspiciously Similar Song is supposed to be written from scratch as opposed to "Smells Like Teen Spirit with a few notes tweaked to dodge copyrights", but Suspiciously Similar Song's description disagrees.

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#2: Aug 1st 2012 at 6:22:01 PM

Oh yeah, I briefly looked at this back when we (and by "we" I mostly mean I) cleaned up Pastiche. This is also a misdefinition (though not as bad as our old definition of Pastiche). As far as the actual term goes, I don't see much difference between a regular pastiche and a musical one.

I suggest making this a redirect to Pastiche, and moving the examples either there or to Suspiciously Similar Song, depending on which category they fit. (Songs that don't fit in either probably don't need a trope.)

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Aug 2nd 2012 at 5:29:23 PM

This needs a rewrite and examples cleaning. What the definition probably should be is when a show rearranges one of its themes, "notably a show's theme tune," to resemble some well-known piece.

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#4: Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:14:50 PM

Then it needs a new name too, since that's not what pastiche means.

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#5: Oct 10th 2012 at 1:48:41 AM

Clocking.

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#6: Oct 10th 2012 at 1:17:44 PM

Ok, the name is wrong and is inviting misuse, and the definition seems hopelessly similar to Suspiciously Similar Song. We have two options: A) merge the examples into Pastiche and/or Suspiciously Similar Song (and presumably make the name into a redirect to Pastiche), or B) try to come up with a unique definition (and new name) for this, which seems implausible to me, but hey, I'm just one guy.

Should we have a crowner? Frankly, I think that if we're making both a new name and a new definition, it would be easier to simply start at YKTTW instead of trying to adapt some random existing page, but, whatever.

edited 10th Oct '12 1:20:18 PM by Xtifr

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#7: Nov 12th 2012 at 3:14:45 PM

I say merge with Suspiciously Similar Song due to the overlap with the actual tropes. And nothing is really lost, since a lot of the examples in the list are actually examples of Recurring Riff.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:58:44 AM

Stale with expired clock, locking.

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