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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1626: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:08:29 PM

I'd say the race changes, while somewhat irksome, are at least understandable from a film perspective.

San Fransokyo will never not sound silly

edited 3rd Nov '14 10:11:28 PM by Mattonymy

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#1627: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:12:30 PM

I can agree on being amazed that not once did anyone in the production ever point out how dumb "San Fransokyo" actually sounds and suggested they come up with something else.

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#1628: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:18:23 PM

I dunno, I find that it rolls off the tongue quite well. Never had a major issue with it.

The race changes can be looked at in the sense of: "People from all sorts of backgrounds are capable of succeeding in a scientific field!" And at least one reviewer pointed out that simply showing women and minorities in this context in a matter-of-fact way is probably the best way to go about things.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#1629: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:23:48 PM

Amusingly, nobody's making anything out of the fact that the one solidly white guy is also the one member of the team who doesn't really 'get' science. tongue

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#1630: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:26:38 PM

He's basically the 'white slacker fanboy' archetype, except he's actually really rich.

Hm, would THAT be troublesome?

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1631: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:34:24 PM

White people are the new "Dumb Father" safe stereotype.

What about the fact that the robot does everything in service for a child in the film, no questions asked? Kind of racist if you think about ittongue.

edited 3rd Nov '14 10:34:49 PM by Mattonymy

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#1633: Nov 4th 2014 at 5:02:33 AM

But he's a robot. It's only a problem if you think of robots as a race deserving all the same rights as human beings.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1635: Nov 4th 2014 at 10:45:43 AM

Shawarma

edited 4th Nov '14 10:47:05 AM by Mattonymy

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1636: Nov 4th 2014 at 3:01:56 PM

Also someone just released a promo of Henry Jackman's new score for the film. Sounds very Wreck It Ralph / Avenger-ish to me. [1]

Heh, I can see my house from this film!

edited 4th Nov '14 3:10:15 PM by Mattonymy

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#1637: Nov 4th 2014 at 9:13:37 PM

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Man. I swear the only complaints I see about cartoons now are race, gender, or not having "realistic" portrayals.

Anyways, despite not being a huge fan of comic books or many animes, this movie looks fun. I'm actually pretty excited for it in a way.

edited 4th Nov '14 9:15:04 PM by teddy

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#1639: Nov 4th 2014 at 10:25:28 PM

or not having "realistic" portrayals.

I doubt it's just me, but there's something about cartoons being, you know, cartoons where I'd almost expect them not to shoot for realistic portrayals to at least some degree.

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#1640: Nov 5th 2014 at 1:02:50 AM

Just as long as we're not relying on stereotypes that are hurtful.

@Matt:That zoom out on San Fransokyo is stunning.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1641: Nov 5th 2014 at 9:06:07 AM

OMG TWO MOAR DAYS UNTIL MAXXED!!!

BTW some of the negative reviews are out. Interestingly, the biggest complaint I see about the film is that the superhero elements seems somewhat formulaic, but only because it's overshadowed by the incredible first half: namely Hiro, Tadashi and Baymax interacting off each other. Possibly another Lilo And Stitch / WALL-E / Frozen effect- I can deal with that.

edited 5th Nov '14 9:08:59 AM by Mattonymy

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#1642: Nov 5th 2014 at 9:09:00 AM

[up] Reminds me a little of Captain America: The First Avenger. The first half is so great with all of the character bits, but the second half is rather formulaic. That said, I still think it works, because it has the characters we grew to love in the first half, so as long as the same is true here, I don't think there will be a problem.

Plus I like superhero movies, so I doubt I'll mind it in that regard.

edited 5th Nov '14 9:09:25 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1643: Nov 5th 2014 at 9:12:32 AM

Personally, the only time I felt that fight sequences are not "formulaic" (ie punch this, dodge this, special attack here, quarter circle + back) was in the Kung Fu Panda films where each animal had a different fighting style that was dictated by their biology. Even The Incredibles and Mega Mind, two films I absolutely adore, still left me somewhat unfazed during the fight scenes.

Knowing the story of BH 6 though and how good it is, is enough to keep me invested.

edited 5th Nov '14 9:12:49 AM by Mattonymy

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#1644: Nov 5th 2014 at 10:14:59 AM

Until the release, I will use my time thinking of a better name for the city! >:

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#1645: Nov 5th 2014 at 10:17:16 AM

The city name would be funny if this was a distant future where both cities got mashed together through geological shifting.

Or atleast thats what I thought was gonna happen....

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#1646: Nov 5th 2014 at 10:21:49 AM

That would take a lot of geological shifting.

edited 5th Nov '14 10:22:05 AM by TheSpaceJawa

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#1647: Nov 5th 2014 at 10:47:59 AM

I guess Godzilla picked up Japan and threw it into the coast of California. Up north you can see the city of Hokkcramento and down south are Los Shikoku and San Dyushu.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#1648: Nov 5th 2014 at 11:12:26 AM

To me it's an alternate history present day where the SF founders really got into Japanese culture, or part of the area was founded by Japanese, so we have what we have in the movie. So the title could go either way; it would be a word native to the society present there during its founding so it would be some Indian or Mexican name, or a pseudo-Japanese name.

Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#1649: Nov 5th 2014 at 11:25:48 AM

IIRC the Art Of book mentioned something like after WWII, San Francisco was given to Japan as a means of apologizing for Hiroshima and it became their 48th prefecture and tons of easterners flocked there and the city grew up alongside the United States for the past century.

Or something like that. I could be paraphrasing.

edited 5th Nov '14 11:37:20 AM by Mattonymy

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#1650: Nov 5th 2014 at 11:33:43 AM

I see. These days though, I don't know how cooperative Japan would be to warm up to the American mindset.


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