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CheapMarzipan A Low Cost Confection Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
A Low Cost Confection
#15901: Apr 6th 2024 at 4:35:28 PM

I don’t think Ford is that callous. He’d rescue Stan, though I’m sure he’d try to figure out a way to stop Bill first. Maybe build that energy rifle, maybe try to invoke the zodiac.

BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15902: Apr 27th 2024 at 8:02:44 AM

I have a Twitter thread here going over some of the unused episode ideas from the leaked pitch bible for the show: https://x.com/forever_gf618/status/1784064999687700612?s=46&t=7YT7yMPCw2VMMwQUxWj5_A

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15903: Apr 27th 2024 at 8:04:22 AM

only if you're signed in to twitter

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BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#15904: Apr 27th 2024 at 8:09:40 AM

I’ll just post the images

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/img_0152_3.png

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An extra sketch from the pitch too:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/img_0160_6.jpeg

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Apr 27th 2024 at 11:13:36 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15905: Apr 27th 2024 at 8:13:01 AM

Mabel is possessed by an 80 year old ghost is like eww but it was likely used when that ghost turned her around and used her like a puppet

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RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
Raven Wilder
#15906: Apr 27th 2024 at 10:16:20 AM

When I saw the title "Periodic Mabel", I thought for a second it was going in a very different direction.

Bummed we didn't get a time loop episode, but glad we avoided the "gypsy curse" stereotype.

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#15907: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:08:26 PM

It looks like two, if not three or four, of those episode pitches were reworked into actual episodes.

Trooper924 from the Spawn Nebula Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
#15908: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:29:59 PM

"Thtupid Thursday" sounds like it would've been fun.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#15909: Apr 28th 2024 at 2:00:20 PM

the funniest thing is there's not a single mention of Bill,its like this whole other show

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15910: Apr 28th 2024 at 2:35:45 PM

To be fair, Bill didn't even make his first appearance until near the end of the first season.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Trooper924 from the Spawn Nebula Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
#15911: Apr 28th 2024 at 4:45:31 PM

Apparently, Bill wasn't originally meant to be the main villain of the series. From what I've heard, he was a more harmless trickster character who messed with Dipper by giving him mysterious sounding, but ultimately meaningless misinformation (hence his whole "Buy Gold" spiel in his first appearance).

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#15912: Apr 28th 2024 at 5:04:45 PM

It's interesting for sure considering how the late additions of Bill into the plot actually felt natural. (Though I did see Bill's early characterization as having remnants of what seemed to be a mor neutral trollish role)

Seems like Bill was meant to be more like Q from Star Trek in that regards

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#15913: Apr 28th 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

I am curious if the show had a concrete final boss before Bill took up the role. Could it have been Stanford? Quentin?

McGucket?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#15914: Apr 28th 2024 at 5:42:32 PM

The final boss would probably be little Gideon in that huge mech of his I think

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Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#15915: Apr 28th 2024 at 6:00:28 PM

[up] ...Honestly, bullet dodged.

I like Gideon as an antagonist, believe me, but a Final Boss? I dunno, maybe Alex Hirsch could have pulled it off? But with what we have of Bill Cipher... he basically ended things off as perfectly as you could ever hope for with a show like this.

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Trooper924 from the Spawn Nebula Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
#15916: Apr 28th 2024 at 6:02:32 PM

Going by the show's What Could Have Been page, the original Big Bad was going to be a cryptid of some kind.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#15917: Apr 28th 2024 at 7:18:01 PM

The fact that the story was not 100% plotted out in advance is still rather surprising to me given how tightly it manages to come across when watching. With all the plot points that add up and come together so smoothly you'd never realize most of them were just thrown together as the show went along.

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Oshawott337 Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
#15918: Apr 28th 2024 at 10:52:54 PM

Yeah, a lot of stuff just kind of ended up working out really smoothly. I guess the one big thing they had was the identity of the author, which was still at least something as the main mystery of the show, though.

"Let’s see who’s stronger: someone that has something to protect, or someone that has nothing to lose."
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