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montagohalcyon Rook from It's grim up north. Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#251: Jan 16th 2013 at 9:54:48 AM

[up]I've started to read that series, btw, since you mentioned it way back. On the third book now.

So I just decided to try and get the achievements for not upgrading until sector 5 and not buying (except repairs) until sector 8 in the same game.

Chose the Engi Torus, since unlike most ships it starts with two of the defensive systems (shields and drones).

Not only did I succeed, but I actually finished! Which I thought was going to be impossible without a cloak or the ability to board and only five crew, but it turns out lots of ion spam with a burst laser and anti-ship drone was (eventually) enough. On the other hand I never did manage to pick up a defense drone, so it could very easily have failed without some lucky dodges.

Only the sun has stopped.
onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#252: Jan 16th 2013 at 10:02:35 AM

^ Yeah, those 2 aren't actually necessary (though they do help loads)...funnily enough, one of that is actually a Torus! (another was Feddie Cruiser and Kestrel, which is my first win ever) Shame about no defense drone though...

Also, what do you guys think is more useful? mk1 or mk2 defense drone?

edited 16th Jan '13 10:08:11 AM by onyhow

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#253: Jan 16th 2013 at 11:49:30 AM

Cloaking device.

Then again, with the Zoltan Cruiser and a cloaking device, missiles aren't that big of a deal.

edited 16th Jan '13 11:50:10 AM by Balmung

Besserwisser from Planet of Hats Since: Dec, 2009
#254: Jan 16th 2013 at 12:39:11 PM

Mk 1 is better by a mile. You got shields for everything except missiles and Mk 2 takes too much energy, while having a higher chance to miss a missile because it shot at some lame laser.

edited 16th Jan '13 12:39:27 PM by Besserwisser

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#255: Jan 16th 2013 at 2:12:04 PM

Well, I'm in sector 6 with the mantis cruiser.

only I have no mantis. they all died unfortunate deaths. I have a rockman, a zoltan, and an engi. lets do this.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#256: Jan 16th 2013 at 2:29:02 PM

welp, got stuck in an ion storm and torn to pieces.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#257: Jan 16th 2013 at 2:32:46 PM

I really want to like the Type B Mantis Cruiser, but the fact that it has both limited weapons and drones kinda hurts.

metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#258: Jan 16th 2013 at 2:47:18 PM

[up] What kills it for me is the lack of *crew*. I've never been able to get more than a single extra crewman before dying, all the times I've tried Mantis B.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#259: Jan 16th 2013 at 2:49:18 PM

sigh, every time I try and start a new game recently, even on easy, the game sees fit to tear me to pieces before I get 3 jumps into sector 1

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#260: Jan 16th 2013 at 4:09:17 PM

[up][up]That's what the durable and disposable boarding drone is for.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#261: Jan 16th 2013 at 6:46:05 PM

What the actual fuck man.

lately this game seems to have cranked the difficulty up significantly. It only seems to throw things at me that I can't counter.

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Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#262: Jan 16th 2013 at 8:55:46 PM

Yeah, the Random Number God loves screwing players over. Or showering them with tech. Tis' a fickle bitch.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#263: Jan 16th 2013 at 9:04:41 PM

[up][up] Problem is, you can't practically assist the boarding drone, because of the hull breach. If you send in your guys to fight in the same room, they suffocate, too.

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onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#264: Jan 16th 2013 at 9:10:23 PM

^ Use it as a distraction? If the drone's fighting on a room you're most likely free to wreck other rooms...

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#265: Jan 17th 2013 at 7:36:07 AM

yeah, I was playing the rock cruiser, and the RNG was being a cruel and fickle god.

it was showering me with ROCKET LAUNCHERS.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#266: Jan 17th 2013 at 11:35:04 AM

so my buddy is having trouble with boarders like all the time before even getting to sector 3. I've recommended blast doors and flying with the airlocks open, but they don't seem to be working. Any other tips?

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#267: Jan 17th 2013 at 11:49:10 AM

What ship is he on? I can normally deal with boarders even without keeping the whole ship spaced. Just wait for them to board (or rathe, begin to show up, pause, and open up all the air locks to the room the boarders are coming into while moving everyone I can away from there, preferably into the medbay and behind it (relative to the boarders), with the best fighters in the medbay (or everyone, assuming they'll all fit in the medbay).

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#268: Jan 17th 2013 at 11:49:28 AM

basically get the doors to level 3, vent all rooms not occupied by crew.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#269: Jan 17th 2013 at 11:50:43 AM

The main problem is that he's usually getting shot by missiles at the same time.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#270: Jan 17th 2013 at 11:54:24 AM

Then he needs one of the following: Zoltan Shields (unlock Zoltan Cruier), Defense Drones, or a Cloaking Device. Also, he should try to max engines, engine skill, and piloting skill to minimize the number of missile hits he takes (just sit there and take shots from something that can't actually hurt him).

For the boarders, an anti-personnel drone might help, or taking a Mantis Cruiser (enemy wants to board you? BOARD THEM FIRST (added bonus, you can completely vent your ship while you're on the enemy ship if you can take their entire crew, then close it and restore air before taking your doods back)

edited 17th Jan '13 11:58:36 AM by Balmung

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#271: Jan 17th 2013 at 12:00:12 PM

[up] all of those are a pain to get. and unlikely to have before sector 3

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#272: Jan 17th 2013 at 12:02:28 PM

There are ships that come with each. If on the Kestrel, just load everyone into the medbay, use your missile launcher to damage the enemy weapons, and space everything up to the boarders and that would lead them away from the medbay.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#273: Jan 17th 2013 at 12:25:51 PM

with a good enough medbay, you can even space the medbay.

I know in the Vortex, my engi retreated to the medbay when the guns just barely took out the enemy ship, the atmosphere was literally at 0 and he just sat there in stasis in the medbay while the bot fixed it all.

edited 17th Jan '13 12:27:20 PM by Lanceleoghauni

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eternalNoob Ded from yer mum Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Ded
#274: Jan 20th 2013 at 1:58:46 PM

Well that's the closest I'll ever get to victory.

That's right, I finally reached the third sector! Then was promptly blown to kingdom come, but it's something.

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stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#275: Jan 22nd 2013 at 2:06:01 PM

So, I picked up this game and forcibly lost the first time

Meteor Shower + Rock Boarders = new player rape.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.

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