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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#101: Mar 11th 2012 at 2:49:15 PM

[up][up]That's saying we should tell instead of show.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#102: Mar 11th 2012 at 5:05:26 PM

I like the Little Mermaid one, but I think swap the original ending to the left. And it should have a cute caption, for the benefit of those abjectly unfamiliar with either version of the story. Something like:

"Pictured left: heartbroken mermaid dissolving into foam. Right: It was a teenage wedding, and the old folks wished 'em well."

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#103: Mar 11th 2012 at 5:14:26 PM

All that seems like intentional opacity.

The Little Mermaid is "Disneyfied" but apparently doesn't make a good image.

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Goldstone Since: Jan, 2012
#104: Mar 18th 2012 at 6:42:49 AM

I don't think anything makes a good image. Lets just leave the trope imageless. Nearly half the tropes are imageless, and this trope doesn't look in need of an image.

pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#105: Mar 18th 2012 at 11:21:35 AM

We're talking about cartoons, and you're saying it doesn't need an image? We just need to find the right one(s).

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#106: Mar 18th 2012 at 1:30:21 PM

[up][up]You haven't given a good reason not to use it. An that the trope has too many aspects to cover is not a reason. Pictures are to illustrate a trope, not show the comprehensive breadth (unless a trope is actually about that, but this is not one of those).

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#107: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:03:40 PM

The image does not illustrate the trope unless you know what it's a picture of. Even then it's sort of a stretch.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#108: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:07:35 PM

Well of course not everyone is going to know what work a picture is. That's what captions, potholes, and even picture text is for.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#109: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:09:42 PM

That exact argument could be used to support a picture of Haruhi.

Knowing what work something is from is not the problem at all. Even if "this is the original story" and "this is the Disney version" were perfectly clear (and it's not), "Disneyfication means the softening of the grim parts of fairy tales in a reproduction to make it suitable for children" is a lot for a caption to carry. Even if the message is none of that besides "here is an example of Disneyfication" that is totally opaque. You'd have to know that is what the image is saying to get that message.

If there is a good image for this, great, all for it. But that is the wrong ballpark.

edited 18th Mar '12 2:16:41 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#110: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:15:55 PM

"That exact argument could be used to support a picture of Haruhi."

What? Pictures are about illustrating the trope, not knowing what the work is. If a Haruhi pic showed a trope, that is what matters.

"Knowing what work something is from is not the problem at all. Even if "this is the original story" and "this is the Disney story" were perfectly clear, "Disneyfication means the softening of the grim parts of fairy tales in a reproduction" is a lot for a caption to carry."

Her throwing herself into the sea in one frame, and then ending up married in the other, doesn't show the trope enough?

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#112: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:34:44 PM

"...doesn't show the trope enough?" Nope.

^ Dig it. Have originals? Would arrange slightly differently. (But fine as-is.)

edited 18th Mar '12 2:47:03 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#113: Mar 18th 2012 at 2:43:58 PM

[up]Sad ending/happy ending isn't enough...

That just doesn't make sense. At least tell us why you don't think it's enough.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#115: Mar 18th 2012 at 3:10:39 PM

These are the originals: [1] [2]

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#116: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:49:10 PM

I like the Hunchback idea.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#117: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:56:52 PM

I also think it's a good one.

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#118: Mar 18th 2012 at 8:08:08 PM

I like the Hunchback pic too.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#119: Mar 18th 2012 at 8:42:00 PM

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edited 18th Mar '12 9:03:34 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
A pocketful of saudade.
#120: Mar 18th 2012 at 9:13:00 PM

[up] I think that's a winner.

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#121: Mar 18th 2012 at 9:26:52 PM

[up][up] My picture endorses that picture.

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#125: Mar 19th 2012 at 5:26:55 PM

I like that one a little better than the other one. One or two more votes and we can run with it.


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