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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1: Jan 28th 2012 at 4:24:26 PM

Rules Are For Humans is for existing games getting a video game adaptation, and the computer cheating on the existing game's rules. (IE: A chess game where the AI can make the king move more than one square even when not castling.)

My Rules Are Not Your Rules is when a videogame AI cheats by not being subjected to some rules the player is.

The former keeps being used for the later. Several examples on the page itself are games that a) aren't adaptations of existing non-videogames (like the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance example) or b) not videogames at all (like the D&D 4E example).

edited 28th Jan '12 4:26:54 PM by Ghilz

Kriegsmesser Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
#2: Jan 29th 2012 at 12:25:41 PM

Cleaned out some of the not-examples.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#4: Jan 29th 2012 at 6:53:20 PM

It's a subtrope.

There are lots of subtropes for The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard.

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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Jan 29th 2012 at 10:30:03 PM

It might help if Rules Are For Humans had a name that actually distinguished it from My Rules Are Not Your Rules.

I think it's also worth discussing whether this is The Same But More Specific, though. Is the fact that a certain game is an adaptation of an older non-electronic game relevant to the fact that it's cheating? Is there really enough of an interesting and meaningful distinction to merit a separate trope?

DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Jan 30th 2012 at 10:09:29 AM

The distinction is that, in an adaptation the game already has a set of rules that are supposed to apply to all players equally, whereas in an original game the rules are deliberately written to accommodate the AI cheating. Of course, from a player's point of view, this distinction is entirely irrelevant.

evilneko Since: Nov, 2009
#7: Feb 1st 2012 at 12:12:02 AM

Given that the distinction between the two is irrelevant from a human perspective, why not just merge the two under one name?

billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: Feb 5th 2012 at 3:01:03 PM

I'm in favor of that.

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