Caption quotes different moment than the one pictured.: Life Of The Party

The caption uses quotation marks to indicate that it is quoting a character in the image, but it isn't quoting the moment in the image. The quotation is from episode 2, whereas the image is from episode 26. So, I consider the caption to be a bit misleading.

Personally, I think there should be an official means to denote whether or not a caption is quoting the character or another one, let alone whether or not it's quoting from that particular moment (perhaps bold for the character, italics for quoting from the moment, both if both, etc...?) but for now, until such an official means is decided, I'll propose a few alternatives for how to reconcile the caption with the pic.

One option is to adjust the caption to fit the image, though I'm not sure how good people would consider "Come on, dance! Yeah! Woohoo!" for a caption.

Another option is to adjust the image to fit the caption, which would yield the following:

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And of course another option might be to leave the page image captionless to begin with.

edited 13th Jan '12 11:55:02 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Nah, I think the image works pretty well as is. Even the caption being taken from a different part of the show isn't really that misleading as it's from the same character and is basically stating the same thing.

In any case, I think the current image illustrates the trope well enough that we shouldn't swap it; the suggested picture doesn't really illustrate it as well. If we are going to change something, it should be the caption.

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Or quote the episode's song.

♪ I am here at the Grand Gala, for it is the best party
But the one thing it was missing was a pony named Pinkie
For I am the best at parties, all the ponies will agree... ♫

edited 12th Jan '12 9:03:14 PM by ShadowHog

Moon◊

I don't mind the caption as is, but that's not a bad suggestion for a replacement.

Still misleading, as it's not from the same moment.

Again, the "swap" option was only one of them. What about my option for changing the caption to quote the moment the image is from? What about my option for leaving this captionless? What about my request for an official means of distinguishing "quoting the moment" from "quoting the character but not the moment" or "quoting neither the character nor the moment"?

edited 12th Jan '12 9:07:10 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

I think that replacing the caption with that song is a great idea and also that the Hidden-Faced one's point about misleadingness is really a non-issue.

I don't really think we need a way to distinguish between those things, either, except maybe adding a hottip to the end with the source of the quote and the name of the character speaking (this would be a huge project though, since we'd need to go through every page looking for quotes in captions.)

edited 12th Jan '12 9:14:09 PM by AweStriker

"Only now, after being besieged by a flock of talking ponies, did he really understand what he'd lost. "

So be it, I'd rather that than giving people the wrong impression about what context a quote is from, or give the impression that we have the wrong impression about it, etc...

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

In any case, I created a new thread relating to that.

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Bumping again because I have another idea; the caption could say something like "the one in the middle" (except without the quotation marks) potholed to Captain Obvious.

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Might not hurt to have a crowner between the current, the lyrics, and ...

Clock is set.

I don't really see any reason to change the image or the caption, honestly (even if I did propose an alternate caption earlier).

Moon◊

"The caption uses quotation marks to indicate that it is quoting a character in the image, but it isn't quoting the moment in the image."

Ridiculous. There are captions that "quote" a different time in the same work, a different episode of a series, and a different work entirely. Not a problem at all.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

Really not a big deal. Maybe not the best quote because it's already a party...maybe just leave it quoteless? Or maybe "Start Having Fun Guys!" (You know, as opposed to stop.)

Edit— Take the character sheet for Futurama https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Futurama

None of those quotes match up to the moments far as I can tell, so it's not important.

edited 16th Mar '12 10:26:44 PM by boobustuber

It is a problem because it can cause confusion. If someone assumes by default that it is quoting the pictured moment as a non-comic equivalent of speech balloons, they can get the wrong impression about when a line was said. If they assume that it isn't, or even if they don't assume one way or another, then they'll miss the point of why it was used.

I still think it would be worthwhile to either have something to pothole to, or some index for pages whose image captions do that, or to at least note such things in hot-tip.

edited 17th Mar '12 11:15:59 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

"If someone assumes by default that it is quoting the pictured moment as a non-comic equivalent of speech balloons, they can get the wrong impression about when a line was said."

Perhaps, but these are to illustrate the tropes (what you are stating applies to examples). We already screw around with pictures if it helps in that mission, so why should captions be exempt?

edited 17th Mar '12 11:45:09 AM by DragonQuestZ

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.

That is not a problem. You are the only one who thinks it is. Nobody else does. You've started several threads about it now. Please stop.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

@Matt: That is not, nor has it ever been, a concern when it comes to captions. If you can give some examples of anyone except yourself actually finding this confusing or misleading, then we can discuss overhauling the caption system.

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With the clock up and the general consensus being to leave the caption as is, I think we're good to lock up.