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#51: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:04:53 PM

Belgium and the PIIGS undergoing currently dissolved governments say hi. Crisis hit both and poof away their Parliaments go in the end.

It gets worse if you don't have those absolute governments (which are a problem in and of themselves, no political party or entity should have absolute power).

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#52: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:19:05 PM

Funny, Belgium just agreed on a government. Also, even without the government, the King is still keeping it together. W Ill they stay together forever? Not necessarily. But they aren't in any real crisis outside of mere partisanism. Brussels is stable and thats where most of their important business happens. Ireland is recovering, as is Portugal. With Bunga Bunga Guy out of the way, Italy will recover much more smoothly than Greece, and as such Spain is not likely to get in as much danger. Your doom theories are out of date, Tom.

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BTW, love the idea of a Parliament, so long as its truely multiparty. As for megastates, that requires more thought since some states could easily merge, others not so much (California suffers the opposite problem and needs to be broken up instead). But overall, I am supportive.

edited 2nd Dec '11 6:24:38 PM by FFShinra

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#53: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:23:22 PM

Belgium just agreed on a government.

That must have happened in the last few days because early this week S & P downgraded Belgium's credit rating precisely because of a lack of government.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#54: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:25:01 PM

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Yesterday, in fact.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#55: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:36:00 PM

@ Tom. Yes, but their Parliaments did not have absolute majorities - or had a fragmented majority - in their Parliament.

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#56: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:39:35 PM

I was not aware Belgium had the only Parliament in the world.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#57: Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:54:52 PM

Secondly, do the words "hung Parliament" mean anything to you? They should, since that's about as effective as we'd get in these partisan times. Meaning we'd become Belgium and our credit rating reduced to junk because we'd never be able to create nor maintain a coherent government.
What Thorn said. We're currently enjoying what is, effectively, a hung Congress and Senate. This isn't a strike against parliamentary systems so much as an acknowledgement that a parliamentary system wouldn't begin to fix our problem.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#58: Dec 2nd 2011 at 7:04:07 PM

@ Thorn. Did you not know? Yeah, just this week Britain and France returned to feudalism. tongue

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