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Alternatively... we can finally put all those new prisons for unreported criminals to use.
Well Mulclair is leader after a bunch of DOS attacks on the NDP voting system. That's simply amazing, the Tories don't have just have to steal elections, they have to attack leadership conventions now too?
"It's pretty risky if you're a national party and you're trying to present yourselves as an alternative to government and you can't organize a vote. I think that's a challenge," Moore said.
Yeah, that pretty much confirms to me that the Conservatives attacked the NDP online systems just to make that sound bite.
The Conservatives are already running attack ads and Harper himself challenged Mulclair as being incapable of leading Canada.
edited 25th Mar '12 10:51:04 AM by breadloaf
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Online attacks:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/24/ndp-leadership-voting-problems.html
Mulclair winning:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/25/pol-thomas-mulcair-ndp-leader.html
"Of course, Mr. Mulcair’s going to be reaching out, I’m reaching out, too," Rae said. "We'll just have to see how far Mr. Mulcair can reach out. Is it rhetoric?"
On Saturday, before Prime Minister Stephen Harper had a chance to congratulate the new leader of the Official Opposition, the Conservative Party had already released a statement attacking the New Democrat.
"Thomas Mulcair is an opportunist whose high-tax agenda, blind ambition and divisive personality would put Canadian families and their jobs at risk," said a statement by Conservative spokesperson Fred De Lorey.
"Mulcair has said he would bring back a risky, job-killing carbon tax which would raise the price of everything — even though Canadians overwhelmingly rejected carbon taxes," warned De Lorey.
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edited 25th Mar '12 11:06:19 AM by RadicalTaoist
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Well, looks like Mulclair is getting the same treatment the last two Liberal leaders got. Hopefully he learns to fire back or his career is finished before the next election.
As for the cyberattack... I could see the Tories pulling that but it could just as easily be any other assholes on the internet.
edited 25th Mar '12 11:13:05 AM by Rationalinsanity
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Well actually the hard part is trying to prove whether it was an individual or not when it comes to DDOS attacks because you can very easily isolate yourself from the person who does it. So even if the Tories were behind it, it's virtually impossible to prove it.
Anyway, I prefer a carbon tax over cap and trade and I'm glad the NDP switched over to that policy. It's much much better and Harper can go shove it with his low-tax schemes. Our government finances are in ruins for half a decade at least and he has the balls to call someone else out on being bad for economics? Mr. Greatest Deficit in History should shut his mouth.
You can certainly file a lawsuit over the matter but I think this is a criminal matter, so perhaps you can't file a lawsuit because the RCMP would handle it as a criminal case. However, if the RCMP like the Tories a lot, maybe they just won't care to investigate. Hard to say. With the way the police has been acting (like police chief Fantino becoming a cabinet minister), I feel like our police forces and the separation of powers, has been been respectively politicised and broken. The fact that the police didn't immediately jump on this matter is already speaking volumes about their priorities.
brothels made legal in ontario. From my understanding we've got a year then you can legally have a brothel, correct? I wonder how they zone it...and how much money I can get from the bank to start one.
If they are well regulated than it will be vastly preferable than having them operate out of slums and the streets. The business is going to exist no matter what; might as well cut down on abuse, STI transmission and trafficking as much as possible. Plus the tax dollars should be nice.
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What's the status of the Queen in Canada?
She's officially our Head of State, represented by the Governor General and each of provincial Leftenent Governors. However her power is entirely ceremonial, the GG and L Gs act on the "advice" of the Prime Minister or Premiers all the time when it comes signing bills into law or making appointments. For the most part the Queen is well respected; there has been isolated talk of republicanism but most people don't mind the connection, have no interest, or don't want to spend the effort changing the wording on every document.
Actually breaking all ties with the monarchy would require an amendment to the British North America act, the founding document of the nation, and I believe that would require a Constitutional change. Which means you need seven out of ten provincial legislatures to vote in favor and they have to represent 66% (or more?) of the population. Doing this kind of thing would open up a nasty can of worms regarding a ton of regional issues so it isn't going to happen.
edited 26th Mar '12 7:49:51 PM by Rationalinsanity
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Legalized Brothels? Awwwww yeahhhhhh.
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I'm just here to say: Clanner scum!
(oh and also, good on Ontario if they pass this)
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/29/pol-robocalls-mayrand.html
I don't expect anything to come from this but maybe we might get some new facts.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/28/pol-budget-elements-to-watch.html
Budget is coming down and I'm willing to bet that it will be your typical slash and burn of services that won't actually do anything. And that old security measure is the most blatant and pathetic stop gap measure I have ever seen. Two years. Whoop-de-fucking-do.
Also while the military itself probably isn't getting cut that bad... there have been rumors that the, already critically understaffed, Veteran's Affairs department is getting huge personnel cuts... up to 40%. Right as we are coming out of the biggest conflict of the generation in the middle of a weak economy. Veterans are going to need those supports for both employment and (physical and mental) injuries. I guess they really do expect those dozens of new fighters and four submarines (who can't even shoot after ten years of work and are still plagued by issues)... that can't operate properly in cold conditions, to do the job. We have the longest coastline in the world; do we really need to patrol it with four subs that can't surface through ice? Or control our tundra with things that have to launch from southern British Columbia?
The Tories are trying to worsen global climate change so their hardware actually functions.
And we also get the typical "screw the poorer provinces on Healthcare" and "First Nations issues? What's that? Its not like we any obligation to help a segment of the population we have spent our history screwing over". Surprise, surprise.
edited 29th Mar '12 8:18:03 AM by Rationalinsanity
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There's at least one good thing that came out today: no more pennies
Good riddance. Not like it had any buying power anyway.
Nice to see that Tories have dropped in the polls somewhat but two things damper that. Voters have short memories and those numbers can change and the Tories still have a few years to fuck things up to the point that it will take a few election cycles to fix everything. Just like the last time they were in power.
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Well their budget is alot more modest that what it could have been.
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Are you reasonably familiar with or have you heard or read about the Robo-call news scandal relating to the most recent federal general election in May 2011 where Canadians were called by an organization claiming to be Elections Canada when in fact they were not from that agency?
Yes 72.5 %
Is that poll actually scientific? The results might be skewed, the people who go to those sites and vote on those polls tend to be more informed/interested in these kinds of things.
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I think it's a normal survey, not an internet poll, otherwise it'd be totally useless. You only really need to poll like a thousand Canadians to be super duper accurate.
Ontario's slash and burn budget is going to be coming out soon, let's see what there is for the 16 billion dollar deficit.
I really hope the punishment for the robocalls won't be like "You must pay us 1000 bucks per riding you committed fraud in".
Alright well, the House has an interview with Flaherty, Mulclair and Duncan to discuss the federal budget and the ontario budget.
Generally Flaherty is spinning his budget as a "growth" budget. For Ontario, Flaherty blames the Liberals for all the problems and yet admits they downloaded costs to the province and refuses to admit that had any negative effect on Ontario's now massive deficit. Mulclair gets to make his first impression, so far, very good to me. Very intelligent and analytical.
edited 31st Mar '12 10:50:55 AM by breadloaf
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Flaherty blames the Liberals for Ontario's budget woes.
The former finance minister of the provincial government that left Ontario with a record-setting debt hidden until they left office is blaming the Liberals for Ontario's budget woes.
What. The.
That's a sound position.
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