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Deadlock Clock: Jan 17th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#1: Nov 13th 2011 at 3:02:21 AM

I can't tell if that's supposed to be a meta-gag in response to another trope that took place beforehand, or what. There's not enough context.

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#2: Nov 13th 2011 at 9:24:42 AM

I don't remember the exact context, but I really like that pic...at most, I'd say Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

ChimericalErrors Since: Nov, 2010
#3: Nov 17th 2011 at 11:43:14 AM

It's from Oot S comic 546; the Dragon of the Big Bad has a Paladin captive and is trying to torture him for information. Information that the Paladin insists he doesn't have. The dragon mocks him with something along the lines of "You expect me to believe that generations of paladins have [risked the safety of the world] for the sake of some stupid promise?!"

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#4: Nov 17th 2011 at 12:46:42 PM

Why don't we pair it with the relevant panels then?

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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#5: Nov 17th 2011 at 2:08:16 PM

Yeah, the comic really should be in context

ShadowPantherRakuen from her mother's basement Since: Sep, 2010
#6: Nov 17th 2011 at 4:03:24 PM

Maybe we can try adding the previous panel.

Also, a link to the comic the picture comes from: HERE.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Nov 18th 2011 at 9:20:59 AM

Nope, because then someone will just complain about the amount of text.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#8: Nov 18th 2011 at 4:27:23 PM

What's being Lampshaded in the picture is Lampshade Hanging itself, so it's delightfully recursive with just the one panel. No need to spoil it by adding irrelevant context.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Nov 18th 2011 at 5:03:54 PM

The context is telling us what's being lampshaded, and then the pun is further handing a lampshade.

So the context isn't irrelevant. It's telling us how it's recursive.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#10: Nov 18th 2011 at 5:52:00 PM

But it's already recursive as a single panel. And the caption provides context much more cleanly and unobtrusively than a second image would.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Nov 18th 2011 at 6:10:05 PM

It's only recursive because the previous comment actually was a lampshade hanging. If you don't know that, it's just a visual gag.

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#12: Jan 14th 2012 at 6:09:54 PM

[up]x4 Oh sh-

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#13: Jan 14th 2012 at 6:37:24 PM

I'm'a go ahead and clock this.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Jan 14th 2012 at 10:16:55 PM

It already has context: it's lampshading lampshading. Who cares what that's lampshading.

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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#15: Jan 14th 2012 at 11:51:27 PM

No, there isn't any context. There's a lampshade and a mention of hanging it, but I don't see any lampshade hanging in the sense that we know it as (calling out a trope).

I guess you could say that this is taking it too literal, at least this panel by itself. I don't see why we can't add the previous panel so it makes sense.

edited 14th Jan '12 11:52:33 PM by KaiserMazoku

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#16: Jan 14th 2012 at 11:55:39 PM

No no, see, Lampshade Hanging means calling attention to a convention or device or whatever, and this frame is calling attention to that.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#17: Jan 14th 2012 at 11:56:16 PM

It's calling out Lampshade Hanging. It's an example.

edited 14th Jan '12 11:56:26 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#18: Jan 14th 2012 at 11:57:52 PM

It's not clear that's the case though. It says it is, but we don't actually see it.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#19: Jan 15th 2012 at 12:03:06 AM

If you think that you don't get it.

At any rate, suggest an improvement.

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#20: Jan 15th 2012 at 1:32:05 AM

I'm okay with adding a second panel.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#21: Jan 15th 2012 at 2:36:43 AM

"If you think that you don't get it.

At any rate, suggest an improvement."

The previous panel...pretty sure I've already said this several times

edited 15th Jan '12 2:37:03 AM by KaiserMazoku

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#22: Jan 15th 2012 at 10:35:07 AM

"It's calling out Lampshade Hanging. It's an example."

But the hanging that it's calling out still comes from a previous panel.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#23: Jan 15th 2012 at 10:45:22 AM

[up] No! Lampshading_1 is calling attention to a previous panel. Lampshading_2 is calling attention to Lampshading_1.

Adding a panel would not be an improvement. If you think it would be, you don't get it.

By suggestion for improvement, I mean a different image.

edited 15th Jan '12 10:47:28 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Jan 15th 2012 at 10:54:36 AM

[up]First of all, claiming someone doesn't get it is not that good a defense for a picture. Second, the first lampshading is still on a panel other than the second lampshading. That is what I mean. I'm not claming we bring the point the first lampshading is calling on, but that we include the point the currently used lampshading is calling on.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#25: Jan 15th 2012 at 10:56:04 AM

Suggest... a... replacement...

(And by that I mean "post an image", not "describe an image".)

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