Clean-up and Rename (new crowner added Dec 6): Older Than Dirt

That seems like pretty heavy misuse all right. And combined with what was said about the more common use of the phrase, you'd think this would be more than enough reason to rename this.

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I did not understand correctly the methods we're supposed to use to frame the pros and cons. I sincerely apologize for getting confused and doing it wrong... and for launching the crowner too early, before discussion was over. I thought the discussion had petered off. Can I at least update the pros section with misuse %s and my findings on Google?

I am often pretty literal in my interpretation of things. But the use outside the wiki is very focused on old geezers, almost to the total exclusion of any other meaning. It's not even vague. Out of about 20 Google search links only five of them were not focused solely on the elderly. Only two refered to a time period longer than a few decades. To me that is not vagueness at all, it's a very specific meaning that not only contradicts the page definition, but refers to an entirely different category (real world persons and fictional characters, not tropes or works). The usage mismatch is serious.

Camacan, I think that your position focuses on the one link (the Idiom Dictionary) that allows the possibility that the page definition might fit into a larger vagueness, while ignoring all the many more pages that paint a pretty consistent definition totally at odds with the wiki page. Old geezer over 60 is by far the most common definition in actual use.

edited 9th Dec '11 1:59:51 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.

Wickchecks are neutral.

Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan

Consensus not to rename. Anything else that needs to be done?

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

I don't think so. Thanks for getting to this, I was going to ask for a clock.

I don't understand the opposition when the current name is so wrong, but that's what it is apparently.

I have cleaned all the wicks and examples for this, so if the misuse becomes a problem again I will start another thread here.

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.

All right. Locking this then.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick