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Deadlock Clock: Dec 27th 2011 at 11:59:00 PM
ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Oct 21st 2011 at 1:42:03 PM

I see no Hero Worshipping whatsoever.

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#2: Oct 21st 2011 at 4:13:01 PM

It's an old Looney Tunes short that you'd need to know to get the context; the little dog is a sycophantic Lickspittle to the bigger dog.

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#3: Oct 21st 2011 at 4:36:26 PM

Seems fine to me. Perfectly clear, with the caption. It will take a hugely better image to supplant it.

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:05:31 PM

With the caption, it's somewhat clear. Without it, it's undecipherable. That's bad.

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#5: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:12:01 PM

Yeah, I don't think that the little dog looks like he's hero worshipping the big dog. At all.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#6: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:36:12 AM

We're allowed to use captions. A statement like "The image doesn't work without the caption" is mildly interesting in the abstract, but irrelevant, because it has a caption.

I really wish we could drive a stake through the heart of the notion that any image that includes text or a caption is somehow inherently inferior to one that doesn't.

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#7: Oct 22nd 2011 at 7:31:52 AM

Seconding (uh, the pull I mean). If you don't know who these people are, it'd just look like 2 dogs shaking hands (paws?).

edited 22nd Oct '11 7:32:12 AM by Bookyangel2438

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#8: Oct 22nd 2011 at 8:04:30 AM

[up][up]That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the caption can't do all of the work. It's fine if you need the caption to understand the image, but the image has to contribute something. What I'm saying is that in this specific case, the image doesn't contribute anything. There absolutely no indication of Hero Worship taking place in that image. It's just two dogs. The caption does all the work. It's JAFAAC. It's a picture of two dogs with no apparent connection to the trope, with a caption saying "this is an example, really".

edited 22nd Oct '11 8:52:27 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#9: Oct 22nd 2011 at 8:39:53 AM

Yes, if you look at an image and get the gist of the trope, and then the caption goes on to further elaborate, then that's good. If it relies entirely on the caption, though, that's bad.

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#10: Oct 22nd 2011 at 5:04:29 PM

What this might take is an actual shot from one of the shorts with those two instead of that pic, because whassisface doesn't look like he's really in awe of the bulldog. The bulldog would just walk along and the other would bounce and caper around him and chatter nonstop.

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#11: Oct 23rd 2011 at 5:56:29 AM

[up]I think that's a good suggestion, but the current image doesn't contribute nothing. You have two dogs with different sizes, attitudes, postures, etc. To me, the little dog's posture suggests "Don't ya just love this guy?"

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#12: Oct 23rd 2011 at 10:07:52 AM

Wow, GIS for those two characters is horrible...this is the only good quality pic I could find that gets close to the trope. No time to look at the actual shorts right now for screencaps or dialogue.

edited 23rd Oct '11 10:09:28 AM by Willbyr

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#13: Dec 24th 2011 at 8:06:44 AM

Clock is set. Any objections to switching out the current pic for [up]?

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#14: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:37:55 PM

Nope, that's much better than the current pic.

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#15: Dec 27th 2011 at 2:27:38 PM

The clock's up tomorrow. Anyone else?

edited 27th Dec '11 2:27:52 PM by Willbyr

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#16: Dec 30th 2011 at 1:31:58 PM

Hearing no objections, the new pic is up, potholed, and tagged, and I recycled the old caption. Locking up.

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