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Cojuanco Since: Oct, 2009
#26: Oct 17th 2011 at 2:22:31 PM

If you count Turkey as part of Europe, they're in power. IIRC the same is true in Kosovo.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#27: Oct 17th 2011 at 2:26:33 PM

Secretist; I don't know if that counts as religious, though it's certainly to the far right. Or I guess that just proves you can't outright call yourself a Christian "so and so" political party and be taken seriously here. Constitution Party does sound more palatable.

JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Oct 17th 2011 at 2:29:18 PM

[up][up] Yes, but Turkey has a secular constitution. And the muslim parties in the Balkans are more about ethnic identity as muslims after a bloody civil war where Muslims were a target of genoside ethnic cleansing, which apparently isn't as bad.

Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#29: Oct 17th 2011 at 2:31:06 PM

And the religious ruling party in Turkey faces a great deal of scrutiny. Turkey is one of the most secular countries in the world, thanks to Ataturk.

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Cojuanco Since: Oct, 2009
#30: Oct 17th 2011 at 2:36:04 PM

Also, the Philippines has one (well, technically, two - one for the Christians and one for the Muslims, but they always caucus together), and have previously been in government.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#31: Oct 17th 2011 at 3:29:14 PM

They caucus together? Well, that's novel to me. Here you get Christians trying to get rid of the Muslims.

secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#32: Oct 18th 2011 at 8:02:22 AM

The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States.

This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.

The Constitution of these United States provides that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." The Constitution Party supports the original intent of this language. Therefore, the Constitution Party calls on all those who love liberty and value their inherent rights to join with us in the pursuit of these goals and in the restoration of these founding principles.

The U.S. Constitution established a Republic rooted in Biblical law, administered by representatives who are Constitutionally elected by the citizens. In such a Republic all Life, Liberty and Property are protected because law rules.

We affirm the principles of inherent individual rights upon which these United States of America were founded:

  • That each individual is endowed by his Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are the rights to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness;
  • That the freedom to own, use, exchange, control, protect, and freely dispose of property is a natural, necessary and inseparable extension of the individual's unalienable rights;
  • That the legitimate function of government is to secure these rights through the preservation of domestic tranquility, the maintenance of a strong national defense, and the promotion of equal justice for all;
  • That history makes clear that left unchecked, it is the nature of government to usurp the liberty of its citizens and eventually become a major violator of the people's rights; and
  • That, therefore, it is essential to bind government with the chains of the Constitution and carefully divide and jealously limit government powers to those assigned by the consent of the governed.

That's the preamble to their platform. Yes, it's complicated they're not theocratic, yet Christianity gets special mention in a state religion sort of way, even if it is just ceremonial.

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MilosStefanovic Decemberist from White City, Ruritania Since: Oct, 2010
Decemberist
#33: Oct 18th 2011 at 9:18:26 AM

As of right now, there are no religious parties in Serbia, except for a minor Christian Democratic party that is even less hardline than Merkel's in Germany. However, there is the far-right Dveri (The Gates), an NGO that should be listed as a political party on the next elections in 2012. They most definitely won't pass the parliamentary census, though.

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JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#34: Oct 18th 2011 at 11:44:52 AM

This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

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lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
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#35: Oct 18th 2011 at 12:05:25 PM

I still wonder which Polish parties were so uncomparable to others that they were the only religious ones in Europe. Unless the point is they all were, but this raises some further questions.

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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
Decemberist
#36: Oct 18th 2011 at 12:24:10 PM

Gacek, I just heard from my Polish friends that Polish Political parties tended to be Catholic.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#37: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:00:15 PM

Isn't Poland a majority Catholic? Wouldn't that make most members of political parties Catholic by default?

@Secretist; that party's position is bullshit. The Founding Fathers very specifically make separation of Church and State part of the Constitution. It was to keep both those things from interfering with the other. So no, while the men in question may have been Christian, our country was not founded specifically on Christian values. It's a secular document through and through.

edited 18th Oct '11 1:02:06 PM by AceofSpades

lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
KVLFON
#38: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:07:55 PM

As Ace remarked, it's the case of a majority religion (percents go as far as to the nineties). So that's why I asked this:

A party whose members are predominantly religious, or a party whose agenda explicitly includes following a specific religious doctrine?

I guess whale misunderstood. Tend to be Catholic as the populace tends to be Catholic, but the only one which goes further than your typical diluted Christian Democracy is what we call a "sofa party": one whose members can all sit on a single sofa.

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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
Decemberist
#39: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:11:56 PM

Yes I did because I kinda assumed that the Polish parties followed a religious path >.>

Sorry about that.

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BlixtySlycat |like a boss| from Driving the Rad Hazard Since: Aug, 2011
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#40: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:13:02 PM

It's worth noting here that while there are many good reasons to keep church and state very separate, "it's in the Constitution" isn't one, because it's not. Even if it were, the Constitution's been amended before.

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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#42: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:37:58 PM

Which would go over poorly with our religious right. I think it's a good idea, but it's chances of passing currently would go very poorly as currently the Tea Party and other influential figures thing religion needs to be more involved, and they are not at all moderate like in Europe.

BlixtySlycat |like a boss| from Driving the Rad Hazard Since: Aug, 2011
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#43: Oct 18th 2011 at 1:40:21 PM

As I understand it, the only other countries with notable Religious Rights are Canada, Australia, and The Philippines.

Anyway, I'd certainly support less moralistics (?) in government, we get too much of that as it is, but as has been said, it probably wouldn't pass.

edited 18th Oct '11 1:40:37 PM by BlixtySlycat

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