Beware the Crazy Man.
I wonder what the implications are....
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
Well, this is... exciting. Let's see if this is really valid or not.
Because of the logical construction of special relativity, for it to be wrong, one of its fundamental axioms have to be wrong (like reference frame invariance of physics).
Now using Trivialis handle.
Science ftw.
Oh My
We must prepare the battleships! WE SHALL BRING THE DHAMMA TO THE STARS!
AND FIND THE INDIAN KLINGONS.
MWUAHAHAHAHAHHA RELIGIOUS IMPERIALISM
But seriously...this is neato.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
so witbin a year we find antimatter near earth for our use and we potentially find FTL particles. did cancelling th e space program somehow motivate the universe to give us all the cool starship toys?
Oh My
Yes. The universe is sentient and wants us to find those Indian Klingons. FIND THEM AND SHOOT LASER BEAMS FROM OUR FOREHEADS.
I wonder what will come of this...ohhhh...
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
More like giant cherries
There's no need to celebrate yet. It's almost certainly a mistake.
It'd be like if someone told you that they think the sun is purple and made out of cheese. Even if they spent the last 6 months checking their results, it's still extremely unlikely that they are actually right.
edited 22nd Sep '11 12:32:16 PM by storyyeller
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play
Oh My
BUT IT'S COOL.
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THIS IS PART OF WHY IT IS COOL.
edited 22nd Sep '11 12:33:41 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
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if there isnt a mistake..we get to rewrite physics completely and hear more whining from people about science changing its mind :3
edited 22nd Sep '11 12:32:36 PM by Midgetsnowman
It'd be like if someone told you that they think the sun is purple and made out of cheese. Even if they spent the last 6 months checking their results, it's still extremely unlikely that they are actually right.
Stop ruining my dreams of faster than light communications.
I WANT THE TEXT BOOKS CHANGED. ALL OF THEM.
edited 22nd Sep '11 12:34:33 PM by Pentadragon
Decemberist
Maybe special relativity doesn't work on subatomic particles?
Dutch Lesbian
Its basically the new cold fusion. If it truly works, we've rewritten the laws of the universe as we know them.
Statistical Unlikeliness
Probably a calculation mistake, I'd say, but if it's true... just nowing that c isn't such an absolute limit... Yeah, bring me my brown pants.
As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero.
Just to be clear, these aren't "special" Neutrinos right? One article I read sort of put it that way. I did well enough in high school Physics (and yet did not pick it for College, which I think I might regret as it's where all the jobs are) to know that shouldn't be the case...
...anyway, one guy wants to know how their margin of error is so low.
Lord high Xecutioner
Nothing can travel faster than light, but a neutrino is nothing. It is an electron with neither mass nor electric charge.
When I were a lad, a neutrino had 0 mass and travelled at exactly c. Then there was talk of the neutrino having a very small mass and going (99.99 and LOTS of 9s)% of c.
If this pans out, neutrinos have imaginary mass SQR(-1).
Liberty! Equality! Fraternity!
So I did some back of the envelope calculations to try and see how well the neutrino performed.
Given a difference of 60 nanoseconds +/- 10ns for margin of error (so up to 50 or 70 nanoseconds faster than light), I worked out that the neutrino must have traveled at a rate of anywhere from 1.0000287c to 1.0000205c. Meaning it would have traveled anywhere from 8 to 6 km/s faster than light. Not exactly a warp factor, but still pretty awesome if the margin of error holds up.
I like how 2011 keeps spitting out more and more implausible headlines.
KVLFON
31th December: ALIENS FROM ALDEBARAN INVADE EARTH!!!
The President: "Zombies not as grave concern"
"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
OMG NO NOSECONES
Saw this on the news, found it to be way neat-o.
Of course, if this holds up, it'll mean a hell of a lot of revisions to existing models and such.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
Presumably, that there is a glitch in the Physics Engine. We have to work out how we can take advantage before the gods find out and issue a patch.
And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
It's Like Arguing on the Internet
If this is for real, we'd better have warp drives within the next 20 years or I might as well kill myself now. What's the point of all this cool stuff happening if I can't use it?
Most likely someone forgot to carry over a 1 somewhere. If this turns out to not be an error though...
EVERYTHING WE KNOW IS A LIE!
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?^ That lying son of a bitch, Einstein!
Never Ask Me the Odds
Ooh, interesting 
Obviously will have to be verified, but I was actually wondering when the big particle accelerators were going to begin returning some strange results.
edited 22nd Sep '11 2:17:38 PM by TheGirlWithPointyEars
She of Short Stature & Impeccable Logic My Skating Liveblog
And thus, every sci-fi fan wept with joy.
Prepare for warp speed, ladies and gentlemen.
Scientists at the world's largest physics lab said Thursday they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than light. That's something that according to Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity — the famous E (equals) mc2 equation — just doesn't happen.
"The feeling that most people have is this can't be right, this can't be real," said James Gillies, a spokesman for the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, outside the Swiss city of Geneva.
Gillies told The Associated Press that the readings have so astounded researchers that they are asking others to independently verify the measurements before claiming an actual discovery.
"They are inviting the broader physics community to look at what they've done and really scrutinize it in great detail, and ideally for someone elsewhere in the world to repeat the measurements," he said Thursday.
Scientists at the competing Fermilab in Chicago have promised to start such work immediately.
"It's a shock," said Fermilab head theoretician Stephen Parke, who was not part of the research in Geneva. "It's going to cause us problems, no doubt about that - if it's true."
The Chicago team had similar faster-than-light results in 2007, but those came with a giant margin of error that undercut its scientific significance.
Outside scientists expressed skepticism at CERN's claim that the neutrinos — one of the strangest well-known particles in physics — were observed smashing past the cosmic speed barrier of 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers per second).
University of Maryland physics department chairman Drew Baden called it "a flying carpet," something that was too fantastic to be believable.
CERN says a neutrino beam fired from a particle accelerator near Geneva to a lab 454 miles (730 kilometers) away in Italy traveled 60 nanoseconds faster than the speed of light. Scientists calculated the margin of error at just 10 nanoseconds, making the difference statistically significant. But given the enormous implications of the find, they still spent months checking and rechecking their results to make sure there was no flaws in the experiment.
"We have not found any instrumental effect that could explain the result of the measurement," said Antonio Ereditato, a physicist at the University of Bern, Switzerland, who was involved in the experiment known as OPERA.
The CERN researchers are now looking to the United States and Japan to confirm the results.
A similar neutrino experiment at Fermilab near Chicago would be capable of running the tests, said Stavros Katsanevas, the deputy director of France's National Institute for Nuclear and Particle Physics Research. The institute collaborated with Italy's Gran Sasso National Laboratory for the experiment at CERN.
Katsanevas said help could also come from the T 2 K experiment in Japan, though that is currently on hold after the country's devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
Scientists agree if the results are confirmed, that it would force a fundamental rethink of the laws of nature.
Einstein's special relativity theory that says energy equals mass times the speed of light squared underlies "pretty much everything in modern physics," said John Ellis, a theoretical physicist at CERN who was not involved in the experiment. "It has worked perfectly up until now."
He cautioned that the neutrino researchers would have to explain why similar results weren't detected before, such as when an exploding star — or supernova — was observed in 1987.
"This would be such a sensational discovery if it were true that one has to treat it extremely carefully," said Ellis.
edited 22nd Sep '11 12:16:43 PM by Pentadragon