Justice4243
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#102: Sep 3rd 2011 at 12:17:47 AM
@Loni
I think there's some issue with the Vatican being in Italy which was part of the Axis force. So it's a sort of "ending of Schindlers List" where Schindler thinks "I could have done more," except it's modern people doing it.
But I'm not a huge WWII history buff, so I'm definitely not the authority on such matters.
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#103: Sep 3rd 2011 at 12:50:22 AM
Loni: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html
- In the spring of 1940, the Chief Rabbi of Palestine, Isaac Herzog, asked the papal Secretary of State, Cardinal Luigi Maglione to intercede to keep Jews in Spain from being deported to Germany. He later made a similar request for Jews in Lithuania. The papacy did nothing.(5)
- Within the Pope's own church, Cardinal Theodor Innitzer of Vienna told Pius XII about Jewish deportations in 1941. In 1942, the Slovakian charge d'affaires, a position under the supervision of the Pope, reported to Rome that Slovakian Jews were being systematically deported and sent to death camps.(6)
- In October 1941, the Assistant Chief of the U.S. delegation to the Vatican, Harold Tittman, asked the Pope to condemn the atrocities. The response came that the Holy See wanted to remain "neutral," and that condemning the atrocities would have a negative influence on Catholics in German-held lands.(7)
- In late August 1942, after more than 200,000 Ukrainian Jews had been killed, Ukrainian Metropolitan Andrej Septyckyj wrote a long letter to the Pope, referring to the German government as a regime of terror and corruption, more diabolical than that of the Bolsheviks. The Pope replied by quoting verses from Psalms and advising Septyckyj to "bear adversity with serene patience."(8)
- On September 18, 1942, Monsignor Giovanni Battista Montini, the future Pope Paul VI, wrote, "The massacres of the Jews reach frightening proportions and forms."(9) Yet, that same month when Myron Taylor, U.S. representative to the Vatican, warned the Pope that his silence was endangering his moral prestige, the Secretary of State responded on the Pope's behalf that it was impossible to verify rumors about crimes committed against the Jews.(10)
- Wladislaw Raczkiewicz, president of the Polish government-in-exile, appealed to the Pope in January 1943 to publicly denounce Nazi violence. Bishop Preysing of Berlin did the same, at least twice. Pius XII refused.(11)
Justice4243
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#104: Sep 3rd 2011 at 1:08:30 AM
Ramus's post in question for the sake of a balanced look.
No point attempting to be made. Just find the the event very fascinating.
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One other aspect I was trying to point out that the “door swings both ways”, so to speak. So Hitler being an issue for Christians is about as relevant as scientific racism being an issue for modern evolutionists.
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