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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#1: Aug 25th 2011 at 1:57:59 AM

Based on what I thought the "Pick-Up Art" thread was about (it's not about that).

Do you think Found Art does, or at least can, have artistic merit? Do you believe in objective artistic merit at all?

My answers would be yes and no respectively. Sometimes all you need to do to make something art is change the context it's in.

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#3: Aug 25th 2011 at 2:32:00 AM

I consider it functionally equivalent to taking a photograph of a waterfall—you didn't make the waterfall, but you figured out how best to present it.

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#4: Aug 25th 2011 at 3:25:50 AM

For the most part I consider it very lacking in artistic merit.

I went to the surrealism exhibit at an art gallery a while ago. There was this object that, while it looked quite exotic to me, turned out to be a very common household implement of the time. Every cellar had one, and the artist literally just picked it up out of his own cellar and stuck it into a gallery unaltered.

To me that is not art. I could grab the plastic shelving out of my pantry and stick it on a dais with a label, but that wouldn't be art.

Which makes it seem like the only criteria for art is 'an artist made it', which seems like circular logic to me: "I make art, therefore I am an artist. I am an artist, therefore what I make is art".

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#5: Aug 25th 2011 at 4:03:52 AM

To me that is not art. I could grab the plastic shelving out of my pantry and stick it on a dais with a label, but that wouldn't be art.

yes it would.

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#6: Aug 25th 2011 at 5:50:00 AM

My answers to the OP's questions are also yes and no. Concerning found objects, taking and arranging them as "art" is no different than taking and arranging paint particles as "art"; you're simply using a different medium.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#7: Aug 25th 2011 at 5:55:00 AM

I concur with Inferno.

If you were to take hundreds of those shevles and arrange them into a pattern, then that too is art. Its just a different way of doing art.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Aug 25th 2011 at 6:11:53 AM

What's that old saying:

I don't know about art, but I know what I like.

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MasterInferno It's Like Arguing on the Internet from Tomb of Malevolence Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#9: Aug 25th 2011 at 6:16:44 AM

I'm pretty sure I just had the best idea for an art exhibit ever:

I go to an art gallery, tell a bunch of people to come see my exhibit, get them to follow me into an empty room, and then tell them that they are the exhibit.

I should get paid for this stuff.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Aug 25th 2011 at 6:23:24 AM

Inferno[awesome] I'll pay you in irony dollars [lol]

edited 25th Aug '11 6:23:49 AM by joeyjojo

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#11: Aug 25th 2011 at 6:30:04 AM

I accept![lol]

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lazerface Nightmares for a week. from East Coast, USA Since: Feb, 2011
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#12: Aug 25th 2011 at 6:42:56 AM

Deboss, if you think art has no merit then why do you post on a website dedicated to the arts?

And yeah, found art can absolutely have merit— check out Duchamp, for instance. The art doesn't have to be the thing, it can also be how it's presented and the audience reaction to it.

(Also, Inferno— John Cage already did that. That's the point of his piece "4'33"")

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Aug 25th 2011 at 1:40:25 PM

I post on a website dedicated to entertainment.

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