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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#1: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:14:29 AM

Here Yes, it excites me very much that he's considering a primary challenge. He will if supporters can donate $1 million. Also, Ralph Naders says no to a 2012 run.

Gravel was hard-pressed to name others who he would like to see challenge Obama, saying that Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader appear unlikely to run.

“Ron Paul is just too far over there for my tastes,” Gravel said. “He is a strict constructionist, not believing in the people.” Gravel said that former Georgia Rep. Cynthia Mc Kinney would make an excellent candidate.

Unlike some disappointed Democrats, Gravel doesn’t believe that Hillary Clinton would have been any better than Obama. “Oh God no!” Gravel said, adding that Clinton “would have been a tool of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex. And she’s that right now.”

In 2008, I endorsed Mike Gravel, Bill Richardson, and Ron Paul. That was two Democrats and one Republican. I wound up voting for Bob Barr.

In 2012, I endorse Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and possibly Mike Gravel. It depends on them getting the nomination. In the chance of none of the above getting the nomination, I would vote for Wayne Allyn Root or R. Lee Wright. It would be a tough decision if any of the following were to happen:

  • D:Mike Gravel R:Ron Paul
  • D:Mike Gravel R:Gary Johnson
  • R:Ron Paul L:Wayne Allyn Root
  • D:Mike Gravel L:Wayne Allyn Root
  • R:Gary Johnson L:Wayne Allyn Root

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captainbrass2 from the United Kingdom Since: Mar, 2011
#2: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:32:19 AM

I know nothing about this man or his opinions, but he deserves a shot at being President for his name alone.

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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#3: Aug 11th 2011 at 12:50:55 PM

You could read his wikipedia article and website?

edited 11th Aug '11 12:51:43 PM by secretist

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#5: Aug 11th 2011 at 3:07:33 PM

Electoral history, Political positions, and 2008 campaign.

Here he is on political compass. Economic: 7-8 Social:(-2)-(-3)

Perhaps the most breath-taking u-turn in the primaries belongs to Mike Gravel, a left-leaning Democrat and undoubted civil libertarian who has now put his lot in with the Libertarian Party. On the social scale this doesn't represent much of a leap, but economically the mercurial Mr.Gravel, a long-standing champion of universal health care and a redistributive economy, has vaulted from social democracy to a radical neo-liberal platform well to the right of most Republicans.

edited 11th Aug '11 3:08:32 PM by secretist

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#6: Aug 11th 2011 at 8:53:54 PM

Now reading the list of political positions . . .

I have no idea whether or not I support this guy.

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AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#7: Aug 11th 2011 at 9:09:25 PM

President Gravel makes me think of President Pet Rock.

Gravel for President 2012.

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#8: Aug 12th 2011 at 5:50:45 AM

Seems a pretty interesting dude, but the bit in his Wikipedia article on the 9/11 Truth Movement makes him sound like one of those twoofers who thinks the government blew up the WTC.

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Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#9: Aug 12th 2011 at 11:43:06 AM

I agree, looks interesting, especially the proposed flat tax on production + rebate. Admittedly it would immediately raise prices for everything, but the rebate for those below the poverty line is good (assuming said line isn't lowered anytime soon...)

Though, I'd rather him be in Congress where his influence would be felt more; hard enough for Presidents to do anything radical without backing of Congress as it is.

Erock Proud Canadian from Toronto Since: Jul, 2009
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#10: Aug 12th 2011 at 11:51:18 AM

Considering he went from ebing a smart democrat to a liberterian, I don't like him.

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secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
#11: Aug 12th 2011 at 11:53:09 AM

2004 Compare that to 2008. He's closer to Michael Badnarik's position than even Bob Barr (the 2008 Libertarian candidate).

edited 12th Aug '11 11:53:37 AM by secretist

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Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#12: Aug 12th 2011 at 11:53:45 AM

To be honest, he's light on the Libertarian angle compared to those who border on Anarcho-capitalists.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Aug 13th 2011 at 8:51:06 PM

The guy's gone insane. While I agree with him on a lot of points on the issues (he's a genuine classical liberal, which is almost a frigging dinosaur in today's world), he has absolutely no respect for the rule of law.

secretist Maria Holic from Ame no Kisaki Since: Feb, 2010
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