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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#2251: Jan 5th 2017 at 7:43:50 AM

If Venezuela just pretty much declares itself a narco-state then the government is placing the noose around its own neck, though.

Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2252: Jan 6th 2017 at 7:41:25 AM

I found this article. It's a long but very throughout rundown on much of what's been going on these last two decades, and useful idiots' relationship to it. Even if you don't care about the latter it's easily the most in-depth article in English I've read. I heartily recommend it if you have the time to spare.

And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2253: Jan 26th 2017 at 5:28:01 PM

The Venezuelan government is out of money to service its oil tankers

A fleet of rundown Venezuelan oil tankers carrying some 4 million barrels of oil and other fuels is wallowing in the Caribbean Sea. Not because of bad weather, or mechanical problems, but because Venezuela’s state-owned oil company, Petróleos de Venezuela SA, doesn’t have the cash to get them to their final destinations.

Beyond the obvious environmental risks, it’s doubly bad news for Venezuela, a country in dire economic straits and full-fledged crisis, with a political impasse, looting, dangerous food and health supply shortages, and massive protests. Venezuela is massively reliant on oil exports to bankroll government services. But the cash-strapped country can’t even find the money to service the vessels that carry its exports. And Venezuela needs the exports to get the cash to service the vessels. It’s a vicious circle.

Before ships can venture into international waters, international maritime law requires safety inspections, hull cleanings, and other services. Pd VSA, already mired in debt, can’t foot those bills, leaving crude-stained tankers in the lurch. Further exacerbating the problem is intermittent leaks at Venezuela’s poorly-maintained oil export terminals. The leaks stained incoming and outgoing tankers, creating a backlog of cleaning. Some tankers wait as long as two months for cleaning before being seaworthy, one inspector told Reuters, which first reported the story.

Venezuela, once Latin America’s most powerful petrostate, is on the brink of collapse after decades of economic mismanagement and boiling tensions between President Nicolas Maduro and opposition parties. Low global oil prices haven’t helped.

The global oil cartel OPEC agreed to slash global production late last year, but the small uptick in oil prices likely won’t provide enough reprieve for PDVSA to weather its debt storm; it projects its oil production will linger near a 23 year-low in 2017.

So while Venezuela’s political crisis continues unabated, its sole possible economic lifeline drifts at sea, in aging, dirty tankers.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#2254: Feb 2nd 2017 at 4:56:17 AM

The Economist: As Venezuela crumbles, the regime digs in

Nicolás Maduro draws the wrong conclusions from the economic crisis

EVERY weekday morning, a queue of several dozen forlorn people forms outside the dingy headquarters of SAIME, Venezuela’s passport agency. As shortages and violence have made life in the country less bearable, more people are applying for passports so they can go somewhere else. Most will be turned away. The government ran out of plastic for laminating new passports in September. “I’ve just been told I might need to wait eight months!” says Martín, a frustrated applicant. A $250 bribe would shorten the wait.

As desperation rises, so does the intransigence of Venezuela’s “Bolivarian” regime, whose policies have ruined the economy and sabotaged democracy. The economy shrank by 18.6% last year, according to an estimate by the central bank, leaked this month to Reuters, a news agency (see chart). Inflation was 800%.

These are provisional figures, subject to revision. They may never be published (the central bank stopped reporting complete economic data more than a year ago). The inflation estimate is close to that of the IMF, which expects consumer prices to rise by 2,200% this year. The Economist Intelligence Unit, a sister company of The Economist, puts last year’s economic contraction at 13.7%. That is still much sharper than the decline in Greece’s output at the height of the euro crisis. In 2001 Venezuela was the richest country in South America; it is now among the poorest.

Venezuela’s salsa-loving president, Nicolás Maduro, has responded to bad news with bluster (he blames foreign and domestic “mafias”) and denial. Soon after the leak of the central bank’s estimates he fired its president, Nelson Merentes. Mr Maduro may have held him responsible for the leak. Or he may have punished him for a botched attempt by the government in December to introduce new banknotes.

A currency swap makes sense. The 100-bolívar note, long the highest denomination, is worth less than three cents on the black market. Shopkeepers sometimes weigh them instead of counting them. They are to be replaced with a new set of notes worth up to 20,000 bolívares.

The government’s stated reason for making the switch—to punish hoarders—made no sense. Who would store up the world’s fastest depreciating currency? Its execution was tragicomic. After Venezuelans had queued for days to return to banks bills about to lose their value (sometimes in exchange for notes with even smaller denominations) the replacements failed to show up. Chaos ensued as Venezuelans returned to the banks to withdraw 100-bolívar notes. Their demonetisation is now scheduled for February 20th.

The change at the top of the central bank does not portend better policies. Ricardo Sanguino, the new president, is a Marxist former university professor who has spent 15 years as a loyal parliamentarian from the ruling socialist party. He will have less influence than Ramón Lobo, the newly appointed economy tsar, an economist with little high-level experience.

They are unlikely to deal with the causes of Venezuela’s penury. These include controls on foreign exchange and prices of basic goods, which lead to shortages and corruption; unrestrained public spending; the expropriation of private industry; and the plundering of PDVSA, the state oil company, which provides nearly all of Venezuela’s export revenues.

Ordinary Venezuelans have lost faith in the regime, if not in chavismo, the pro-poor populism espoused by the late Hugo Chávez, who ruled from 1999 until 2013. Mr Maduro, his successor, has an approval rating of 24%. In December 2015 Venezuelans elected a parliament dominated by the opposition.

Mr Maduro’s response has been to cling on to power more tightly. The electoral commission, controlled by the regime, has blocked a referendum to recall him from office. The supreme court, manned by government loyalists, has blocked almost everything the national assembly has tried to do. On January 15th Mr Maduro delivered his annual state-of-the-nation address not to the legislature, as the constitution requires, but before the court.

The regime says it wants dialogue with the opposition but has done little to enable it. Talks mediated by the Vatican and by Unasur, a regional body, broke down in December after the opposition accused the government of reneging on promises, including to release political prisoners and restore powers to parliament.

Mr Maduro’s recent appointment of a new vice-president suggests that the regime is moving further away from dialogue and reform. He replaced Aristóbulo Istúriz, a moderate by chavista standards, with Tareck El Aissami, a hardliner. One of Mr El Aissami’s first acts was to announce the arrest of Gilber Caro, an opposition politician. He had an assault rifle and explosives in his car, the government claims; his party says the weapons were planted.

Mr Maduro appears to be making two bets. The first is on disarray among the opposition. Divisions within the Democratic Unity alliance, a grouping of many parties, are widening as their efforts to defeat chavismo falter. It lacks a leader who can appeal to poor Venezuelans who feel betrayed by the regime’s empty promises.

Mr Maduro’s second hope is that oil prices will bounce back. They have already recovered from $21 a barrel in 2016 to $45. But PDVSA has been so badly managed and starved of investment that it will struggle to reap the benefits. Output fell by 10% last year and no rise is likely in 2017. Venezuela’s foreign reserves have dwindled to less than $11bn; its easy-to-sell assets are about a fifth of that. Mr Maduro vows that 2017 will be the “first year of the new history of the Venezuelan economy”. That will not shorten the passport queues.

This article appeared in the The Americas section of the print edition under the headline “Maduro’s dance of disaster”

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Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2255: Feb 3rd 2017 at 1:10:37 PM

Heh, dance of disaster is a good way to put it.

Has anybody even seen a 500 Bs.F. bill (or larger)? I still haven't.

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JazeBlack My title goes here from Anzoategui, Venezuela Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
My title goes here
#2256: Feb 15th 2017 at 10:19:26 AM

It seems this thread is pretty much dead, the enthusiasm for posting must be low, given that hope is at an all-time low now.

[up] I've heard legends about people holding them, but i've yet to see any.

edited 15th Feb '17 10:23:09 AM by JazeBlack

Living life one step at a time.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#2257: Feb 15th 2017 at 10:57:11 AM

Did your VP get arrested or something? I read something about it on the news but didn't have time to check everything.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2258: Feb 15th 2017 at 11:09:21 AM

Tareck El Aissami is getting sanctioned by The Empire (assets freezing and stuff) over his links to drug trafficking, but hasn't been arrested, although I wonder if he can travel abroad without risking getting arrested for reals.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#2259: Feb 15th 2017 at 4:49:19 PM

The goddamn bastard put CNN out of the air.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#2260: Feb 15th 2017 at 4:54:41 PM

[up]He's going to make Trump jealous. tongue

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#2261: Feb 15th 2017 at 5:01:31 PM

It was pretty much the only way to watch somewhat accurate news we had left in TV. I'm not laughing.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#2262: Feb 15th 2017 at 5:18:35 PM

[up]Oh, sorry.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
JazeBlack My title goes here from Anzoategui, Venezuela Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
My title goes here
#2263: Feb 18th 2017 at 4:58:00 PM

Maduro seems convinced that everyone 'attacking him' is related to drug cartels, his scriptwriter must be getting very underpaid or ran out of jokes.

[up]I was betting Maduro would bash CNN but not that he would actually remove it, now social media really is the only way to hear semi-unbiased news, if that.

edited 18th Feb '17 4:58:48 PM by JazeBlack

Living life one step at a time.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#2264: Feb 18th 2017 at 5:05:29 PM

So, since you're not getting news, My country's president has just called out the Venezuelan government as not being a democracy in an interview with Spanish newspaper "El País".

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Leictreon The Eraser from Aethereum Anacos Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
The Eraser
#2265: Feb 19th 2017 at 11:54:58 AM

They say Cleveland is the "Mistake by the Lake".

I think Venezuela is the true Mistake by the Lake (Maracaibo)

"And he sang all night long... get some p*ssy now"
Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2267: Mar 14th 2017 at 10:14:19 AM

...are they looting costume stores now? And I thought the people running around with Ghost balaclavas were trying too hard.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#2268: Mar 14th 2017 at 10:48:18 AM

[up]long story short there is "war on bread" i shit you not and if bread store dosent Pay could be size by the state.

And yes, Venezuela prove again they really want to be call of duty villian

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Swablu335 GAO GAO! from Maracaibo Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
GAO GAO!
#2269: Mar 20th 2017 at 2:40:59 PM

Happy Happiness day, I know it sounds like something Maduro made up, It's not.

Tomorrow there is a Transport Stoppage Nationally or so I heard.

Me di cuenta que los chismes y las mentiras, al ser aceptado por la mayoria podian convertirse en lo correcto. Por eso escogi la soledad.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#2270: Mar 20th 2017 at 3:48:39 PM

funny hing, I read that last year we were 44 in the ranking of happies country to be, I guessing what number we are now....

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#2271: Mar 20th 2017 at 3:57:41 PM

One?

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Swablu335 GAO GAO! from Maracaibo Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
GAO GAO!
#2272: Mar 20th 2017 at 6:52:00 PM

It's also baker's day, Ironically, there were some violent bakery expropiations in Caracas recently, I can't get an exact number but they were quite a few.

Me di cuenta que los chismes y las mentiras, al ser aceptado por la mayoria podian convertirse en lo correcto. Por eso escogi la soledad.
Swablu335 GAO GAO! from Maracaibo Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
GAO GAO!
#2273: Mar 21st 2017 at 3:03:28 PM

The congress approved about, huh the whole democratic letter thing, I don't think it will make a difference but watching the reds getting pissed off about it is fun.

Me di cuenta que los chismes y las mentiras, al ser aceptado por la mayoria podian convertirse en lo correcto. Por eso escogi la soledad.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#2274: Mar 22nd 2017 at 9:32:30 AM

The Venezuelan government has quit publishing the M2 money supply indicator.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#2275: Mar 22nd 2017 at 9:34:50 AM

[up] That's...not good.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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