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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1976: Jul 3rd 2017 at 9:56:55 AM

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As long as you are in good karma, you have a high chance of surviving. If you are a bit character, then you have a 50/50 chance of being screwed.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#1977: Jul 3rd 2017 at 10:21:26 AM

And the movies are often incredibly blunt at telegraphing who's going to die. Lawyer guy from JP, Eddie in TLW, Mercenaries in JP III, Zara in JW, etc. Might as well have had "dead meat walking" tattooed on their foreheads from second one of showing up onscreen. Same with Sam Jackson once he goes off alone in JP as well for that matter.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1978: Jul 3rd 2017 at 11:49:05 AM

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That's why it's always good to go in pairs, instead of alone.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#1979: Jul 3rd 2017 at 3:41:18 PM

im the only one who like the park? it feel so real, so awsome and for a moment I wanted to be there.....

for a moment, mind you

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#1980: Jul 3rd 2017 at 3:49:45 PM

I'd have been right in line for a year round pass. I'd come home wearing JW shirts, shorts, hats, mittens. You would have to pry me off the Triceratops kiddie ride.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#1981: Jul 3rd 2017 at 3:52:17 PM

[up]oh god that tricepratops kiddie ride look so good, I thought I was the only one who feel the same.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1982: Jul 3rd 2017 at 4:11:47 PM

I am impressed that they managed to keep such a park around for ten years, on the other hand I am still not going to feel good when a break out happens especially when there are giant prehistoric genetically manipulated monsters that are very aggressive and dangerous.

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#1983: Jul 3rd 2017 at 8:12:18 PM

The Gentle Giants Petting Zoo makes me cry tears of joy whenever I see it.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1984: Jul 3rd 2017 at 9:24:22 PM

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They certainly do feel life like and real.

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#1985: Jul 3rd 2017 at 9:35:58 PM

One of my first thoughts on watching Jurassic World was that it was damn good to see an actually functioning Jurassic Park.

Because. I mean. I think most people had the wrong take-away from the movie. "Damn dinosaurs, that would be rad. Get on it science. Don't think about whether you should, just figure out whether you could" instead.

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#1986: Jul 3rd 2017 at 9:52:37 PM

I think Jurassic Park (the park, that is) would have benefitted much more both in safety and attraction if they spent more money on docile and fuzzy dinosaurs.

Imagine, the Internet full of cute dinosaur videos instead of cat videos. evil grin

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1988: Jul 3rd 2017 at 10:05:26 PM

I say take that technology and revive animals that were made extinct by human hands.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#1989: Jul 4th 2017 at 12:21:07 AM

That was an exact point made in the first film, Hammond asked if they would be upset if he brought back the dodo and Malcolm says that those kind of animals went extinct by human actions. "Dinosaurs had their chance."

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#1990: Jul 4th 2017 at 5:47:02 AM

[up] Hammond brought up condors, which were on the verge of extinction. I think I heard that InGen makes some of it's money by helping clone endangered animals, which explains why they were able to feed Great Whites to the Mosasaur.

Honestly, I would love a mockumentary that just showed the behind the scenes of the park with no break outs or chaos at all. How do the keepers make sure the dinosaurs are enriched? Who's the poor sap who has to clean up the Brachiosaur shit? How does the park safely introduce baby dinosaurs into their new exhibits? Uh oh, Rexy's sick and needs her shots; how are we going to safely tranquilize her?

Basically, I want a zoo documentary, but with dinosaurs.

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#1991: Jul 4th 2017 at 6:48:17 AM

As for Malcolm dying, I kind of doubt it. JW deaths tend to run on karma (which is why Eddie's in TLW and Zara's in JW stand out so much, and NOT in a good way imo). So if anything, Malcolm has a pretty good chance a survival, given that he's probably THE breakout character of the franchise and most of his fears about the part were bore out as correct.

The deaths don't always run on karma. It depends on whether you're being killed by a Good Dino or a Bad Dino. There are certain dinosaurs the movie wants us to support, like Rexie, and so despite their best efforts, they are never successful in killing a good character.

Others, the movie wants us to oppose, like the raptors in the first JP. And so they kill people like Muldoon or Mr. Arnold, sympathetic characters who we like, to establish their villain cred.

Eddie's death falls on those lines. Because we're meant to be afraid of the Tyrannosaurs on Isla Sorna, they're permitted to kill a likable protagonist. Zara's, conversely, feels mean-spirited because she's eaten by the Mosasaur, who we're meant to cheer for when she comes back and kills the iRex. This establishes that her death is supposed to be karmic retribution for a bad character, not unlike Hoskins being ripped apart by Delta. Problem is, her "crime" of not paying enough attention to a pair of kids foisted off on her because she was planning her wedding seems inadequate to justify being given a lengthy and brutal death scene, especially by a "Good Dino".

That said, you are correct that Malcolm's basically invulnerable. He's done nothing to warrant death by Good Dino, and death by Bad Dino is generally more about the dinosaur doing the killing than about the person being killed, which would make it a waste of his character.

edited 4th Jul '17 6:51:26 AM by TobiasDrake

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#1992: Jul 4th 2017 at 7:34:22 AM

There's also Malcom dying in the first book, before it was retconned.

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#1993: Jul 4th 2017 at 8:02:01 AM

Yeah. A lot of people died in the first book who were spared by the adaptation.

Except Muldoon. Adaptation decided to go the other way and kill him off even though he lives through the book. Malcolm, Hammond, and Wu all get off scot free, but the most awesome character in the franchise jobs to show off how dangerous the raptors are - a redundant death since Mr. Arnold dies for the same reason.

I'm still bitter about Muldoon. Also, Hammond. Goddamn Hammond, the reason all of this is happening, gets to walk away and Muldoon is raptor chow. Bargle.

And no, JP, including an awesome hunter who proceeds to be Best Character in "The Lost World" did not make up for it.

edited 4th Jul '17 8:05:58 AM by TobiasDrake

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#1994: Jul 4th 2017 at 8:18:16 AM

In the Jurassic Park comics I believe Muldoon lives

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#1995: Jul 4th 2017 at 9:10:04 AM

[up]This-as far as I am concerned, in the movieverse Muldoon lives and Reports of My Death Were Greatly Exaggerated.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1996: Jul 4th 2017 at 9:17:38 AM

I don't think we are supposed to cheer for Zara's death, as many people have exaggeratedly claimed.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#1997: Jul 4th 2017 at 12:56:33 PM

It's not that we're mean to cheer for it. But is was overly-long, incredibly ludicrously over the top, extremely mean-spirited, and just felt really out of place. and Colin Trevorrow's attempts to explain justify it after the fact just made it seem all the worse (seriously that guy needs to stop giving interviews, he's terrible at explaining himself).

And it was also incredibly predictable. Everyone knew that it was coming, and there's not even any real emotional impact since we barely spent anytime with that character.

Eddie's death in TLW is irritating for me because that movie has a massive case of "our so-called "heroes" are actually reckless self-righteous idiots who are constantly getting other people killed, yet the movie still wants to paint them as a out and out heroes." And the one member of the group that WAS semi-heroic, Eddie, is of course the one who gets gruesomely killed halfway through (also again he might as well have had "I'm dead" written all over his face from the first second he walked onscreen).

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#1998: Jul 4th 2017 at 1:28:17 PM

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Yeah, his death was just a cruel and gruesome way to die even by this franchise's standards. Then again the Lost World had some of the more gruesome deaths so far seen. I do have to say the arcade game based on the movie is more redeeming than the actual film.

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#1999: Jul 4th 2017 at 9:09:54 PM

I have to say, "Dinosaurs had their chance" kinda makes it sound like Malcolm thinks it was the dinosaurs' own fault that they died.

As for Zara's death... Eh, I dunno. She's obviously not meant to be likable, but I think that's so you don't feel bad when she dies, not so that you'll want her to die. Her death is ridiculously over-the-top but in a really great way, in my opinion. Just extreme, up-to-eleven dinosaur madness. It's a death that would be wasted on a nameless extra, so they gave it to an unlikable secondary character. I don't begrudge people's negative feelings, but it personally never bothered me.

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#2000: Jul 4th 2017 at 9:16:06 PM

I wouldn't call it Malcolm saying the dinosaurs had their chance is him blaming them for their extinction. It's just him stating a fact.

As for Zara, I never found her that unlikable in the first place which is why her death bothered me as much as it did.


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