Hopefully they can figure a way to balance the epic scale mystical adventure with the human element. I would hate to see Dr Strange get reduced to "Harry Dresden in Tights".
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This isn't a joke, they're actually going through with this? I don't see how it'll make any money or really bring anything new to the table but if they can make it work than Marvel can do anything.
Why would it be a joke? To most people it will seem like a generic summer film with magic in it, people just wanting to go to the cinema will have that as an option. Then they'll see the Marvel logo on the trailer and people who've liked the other Marvel films will be interested too. Any well known actors will interest more viewers as well. Then add the normal crowd of geeks and children, the film will make more money than it cost.
I just don't think he's either interesting or important enough to warrant his own movie. Doesn't he struggle to even keep a comic book going? Also I don't know how the more magical aspects of things will go over with people. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to make a movie about him when we could be focusing on other people.
I don't think he struggles too badly to keep a comic going, he's had some cancellations, but then so have other characters who already have films.
Strange has an origin story that could easily make a full film, the only comparable character is The Punisher. Iron Man, Thor, Spider-Man etc all added half the film to the origin story. I doubt that they'd give Strange a sequel. If you've seen Captain America, the origin ended with the death of the spy, from then on they were using material from other stories.
Maybe Strange is an odd choice, but they've had him in mind for years. He's a conerstone of the Marvel Universe, shows off some of Marvel's range, and is one of the last Stan Lee creations without a film. Considering Ant Man has been tried and abandoned, in devolpment hell, they've got very few left to do.
People tend to like films with magic in them. And by doing this film they can account for any magic users in other Marvel movieverse films a lot more easily.
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The issue is that Thor already skimmed over the magic thing.
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True. But it would be hard to connect some magic characters to Asgardian technology. The most prominent of these is the Scarlet Witch. I have no idea if they could use her, but in my mind she's the most prominent female Avenger of all time. But her magic use could be awkward and time consuming to explain. With Strange in the same verse it's a one liner.
For a lot of superhero films, paticulary the ones less familiar to the public, a key factor is if there's one story that could easily be adapted to make a film. Green Lantern film was basically an adaption of Secret Origins. Daredevil was the origin story stapeled to the core of Frank Millers work, and IIRC Millers run began with the retelling of the origin which codified it. The Fantastic Four was the origin and then a fight with the most famous enemy added on, and the same could be said of about half the superhero films based on comics. They try to make it as much like adapting a novel as possible. The most mainstream characters completely ignore this of course.
Dr Strange has a solid origin story, I'd be extremely suprised if that isn't the film. The only Marvel character I can think of who's higher up on the list is Black Panther, he's probably the most difficult to do justice to.
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Fox owns the film rights to the X-Men, and with the success of First Class, I doubt we'll be seeing Scarlet Witch any time soon.
That said, I'm excited. Doctor Strange is one of my favorite characters. I think it'd be cool to have him not interact with the rest of the movie universe very much, because the threats he's fighting (like Dormammu) are much more serious than whatever the Avengers are tackling.
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Yes! Doctor Strange! I hope after him, we get a Heroes for Hire movie with Iron Fist and Luke Cage, either as one film, or if Marvel feels like it can work, two films, one starring Iron Fist and the other Luke Cage, leading into a team-up movie like they're doing with Avengers.
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I'm almost positive Strange has a film. I think it was one of those shitty 80s ones though.
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It was in the late '70s, and it was made for TV.
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Wait...how would Strange fit into this if the Eye of Agamotto is in Odin's treasure vault? If they could work their way around that, then sure they should totally do it. Get Del Toro to direct it too.
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The Eye of Agamotto isn't in Odin's vault. The Art of Thor book reveals it's actually the Warlock's Eye, an artifact that appeared in a couple issues of Thor in the 60's.
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Oh. Well in that case, yeah they should totally do it.
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Man, I remember back when this was mooted to have Del Toro and Neil Gaiman to be on board a couple of years ago. I hope to hell Marvel gets those two but they've always been quite good at choosing the people to helm their projects.
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@ Seamus Is Scarlet Witch part of that deal though? Kingpin went to Fox's Daredevil film, and he's more of a Spider-Man character than Wanda is an X-Men character. Unless there's a statement from Marvel I don't think it should be assumed the twins are automatically tied to Fox.
Strange has as much chance as any Marvel property to be a good film, it just needs tge right people making it. Any opinions as to whether Dempsey or Neeson would suit tge part?
And yeah, a Luke Cage film (with or without Iron Fist) has been on Marvel's to do list for years, just like this one has. Probably the next one after this.
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I'm not sure if Scarlet Witch is included, or if she's even been mentioned, but being Magneto's daughter it seems likely.
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If thats the case I really hope Terry Crewes gets the part. I've always seen Luke Cage as a more humorous kinda character I think Crewes would fit that perfectly. Besides, the guy already looks like him.
As for Strange, I hope Dempsey doesn't get the part. Nothing against the actor, I just don't think he'd suit it very well. I'm not too sure about Neeson either.
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I think it was confirmed, Wanda and Pietro went with the X-license. Because despite being Avengers since the late 60s, with barely any appearances in X-comics that aren't crossovers, they get forced into the X-ghetto. *hate*
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People make that assumption, but I've never heard anything official. Wanda's an unlikely choice for an X-Men film, but is one of the most prominent omissions from The Avengers film.
I think either she's free until one franchise uses her or else tied to both and basically unusable. That said, I have no real clue whatsoever, but I doubt the familial relations of fictional characters actually matters from a legal standpoint. Is there a fictional universe as large and interconnected as Marvel that's not in public domain? DC comes close, but isn't quite as interwoven. It makes me wonder if the lawyers had known how interconnected each property was, would they still have let them been sold individualy?
Edit: I've looked around the net again, there's no official statement, just some people who assume they know the answer. However Pietro and Wanda Maximoff were on the list of mutant names in X2, which could be proof that Fox has the rights. But then there's an unsourced but repeated rumor that Singer was denied use of Quicksilver for one of the X-Men films.
It doesn't matter for a few years anyway, the Avengers sequel is the next film that it would make sense for either of them to appear in.
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My thoughts exactly on Luke Cage being played by Terry Crews.
Part of the problem is that, I suspect, the contract doesn't actually *have* an explicit list of characters for which Fox receives the rights. It probably uses wording along the lines of ". . .grant rights to the X-Men, their images and names, their villains, and supporting characters." Thus putting Wanda and Pietro into legal limbo; if either side uses them, the other could sue, and have at least good enough grounds to bring the case to trial.
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These licensing issues can get pretty complicated in ways that some characters can never e used by either side. I heard Fox wants to put Bob, Agent of HYDRA in the Deadpool movie, but Marvel has the liscense to HYDRA and would never allow that.
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The trailer has been put up. It's been scheduled for a final November 4th, 2016 release date.
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Marvel is reportedly starting production on it.
Its expected to be released in 2014.
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