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Deadlock Clock: Apr 5th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#76: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:24:27 PM

Yeah. I guess I'm one of those poor saps that confused ever-presence for significance.

Which means that the first two types merely become exampleless due to their omnipresence.

Yeah, stuff may happen in a Largest City, and definitely happens in a Capital City, but... Hm.. those cities would be places where you'd always expect stuff to happen, making the aversions more notable.

Or at least the cities that have the sidequests and minigames instead of the ones above more notable.

edited 29th Sep '11 1:24:36 PM by DonaldthePotholer

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#77: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:25:25 PM

With the largest city in RP Gs there is a crap ton to do in and around the cities. Look at Final Fantasy XII Rabinastre (sp) you spend the first 2/5th of the game in and around the city only leaving to hit another city for a bit then coming back, and after that you still have to visit constantly in an All Roads Go Though Rome kinda way. Shops keep updating as you progress in the plot (no other city does this) and you still fight the final battle above the city and the Clan Hall is here for the Bonus Boss es. Final Fantasy VII has Midgar, Final Fantasy IX has lindblum, and Final Fantasy IV had Baron.

The big thing is these Cities stay important thoughout the entire game. They are not the quick one stop deal with the plot then on to the next city and never need to come back outside the rare sidequest that the other cities get.

edited 29th Sep '11 1:34:05 PM by Raso

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#78: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:27:34 PM

Exactly. It's a city that's pretty much the hub of the game. One that you always return to and that keeps having things happen in it. Sometimes you might not hit it until half way through the game. Sometimes you start there. But it's always a big focus of where you need to do stuff.

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#79: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:43:30 PM

Would Hub Of Civilization work? It doesn't emphasize size at all - just its centrality and that it's a population center of some variety.

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#80: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:46:10 PM

I still like Plot Relevant Hub City as far as being short and descriptive.

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#82: Oct 3rd 2011 at 1:59:10 PM

Another to add to the list, based on the above:

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#83: Nov 16th 2011 at 11:05:43 PM

I'd prefer Primate City to match with the technical term.

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#84: Nov 17th 2011 at 5:09:35 AM

[up] That's both obtuse and misleading, which is disappointing because it is the term for what we're troping. I just worry that it sounds too much like a city of monkeys.

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#85: Nov 17th 2011 at 7:27:05 AM

That's what happened with "Raised by Wolves". Pre-existing terms/phrases can be useful, but as the canonical title for a trope they are Not Always Good, either.

edited 17th Nov '11 7:27:50 AM by Stratadrake

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#86: Feb 5th 2012 at 10:17:15 PM

I personally like Plot Relevant Hub City, although it is a bit long. I don't think the description needs a rewrite, although it couldn't hurt.

Sorry for the bump, but this looks like an easy TRS thread to fix and I was passing by.

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#87: Feb 9th 2012 at 1:00:44 PM

[up] I think this works

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#88: Feb 10th 2012 at 5:28:45 AM

That sounds a bit close to Hub Level to me.

The Capital City has extra plot significance because it's the capital not the other way around.

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#89: Feb 10th 2012 at 8:43:20 AM

Hub Level isn't really what you think it is, and a Plot Relevant City Hub isn't really a level. It's more of a place you keep coming back to in an open concept game.

Capital city is a trope, but this trope is written in a way that excludes actual capital cities. We all ready voted to rename. We just need a good name.

edited 10th Feb '12 8:43:52 AM by shimaspawn

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#90: Feb 11th 2012 at 7:20:55 AM

Towns and dungeons are the levels in an RPG. Thus "hub city" ends up sounding like Hub Level.

Why not use Plot Relevant Capital City? Or some reasonably concise shortening thereof?

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#91: Feb 11th 2012 at 10:08:16 AM

Because it's almost never the capital of anything. It has a lot more in common with a Hub Level than anything else. It's the closest thing to an open world equivalent.

edited 11th Feb '12 10:09:54 AM by shimaspawn

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#92: Feb 13th 2012 at 10:44:38 AM

Oh, man. I can't believe I only just noticed. It's capital, as in economics, not capitol, as in a nation's capitol. Calling it "Capital City" is a Just For Pun. Did someone else already point this out? Because if not, we are collectively Too Dumb to Live.

edited 13th Feb '12 10:45:11 AM by frodobatmanvader

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#93: Feb 14th 2012 at 9:24:58 AM

Actually, no. Capitol refers specifically to the building; capital refers to the city. It's a weird distinction that I never really understood, but that's English for you.

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#94: Feb 14th 2012 at 9:27:42 AM

Actually, Capitol only refers to the Capitol building in DC. Otherwise you're talking about capitals. English. It's weird.

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#95: Feb 14th 2012 at 9:30:25 AM

All Roads Go Though This City?

Kinda hard to think up a name for a city you keep having to return to in plot or quests and such.

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#96: Feb 14th 2012 at 9:35:17 AM

Primary City?

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#98: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:20:12 PM

Central City? City Of Gameplay Density?

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#99: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:33:24 PM

I like City Of Gameplay Density.

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#100: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:46:43 PM

I'm not sure what "Gameplay Density" is referring to.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

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