All Purpose Naruto Fanfiction Thread

But Kakashi was good at his job before it involved teaching.

You need very board strokes to deal with the whole fated family stuff. Even if some of the ideals were good to decent but was done badly.

As for the Mangekyo Sharingan (MS) and the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (EMS). The MS is fine as it is but the EMS needs a lot of changes or to be removed. Some ideals I came up for is increasing the drawbacks of the techniques like the pain caused by using susano or the recharge time of Kotoamatsukami, Increase the chakra cost of the techniques and make them less instinctive.

As for the more advanced forms of the cloaks most of them should be straight removed the only thing the whole take the fox chakra out of its control should have done was remove the risk of losing control to the fox itself. Keep the variation Bee used where there is only the shorting lifespan drawback should remain and the paid would be somewhat lessened in the version One cloaks.

As for Kakashi he was good ninja but a terrible teacher with terrible students.

Ruthless topic take takeover no jutsu.

Is there a monopoly on, or an abundance of "Evil God Mode/Super Naruto" fics? I had an idea for one and had a plan to make it a 6-10 chapter "miniseries" so to speak, but I'm leaning on whether its too Dark and Edgy, or if I really have an end goal for it at all. At first I was just sitting in Word saying, "Wouldn't it be fun if I could deconstruct God Naruto fics and spite the people who write them?"

I fiddled with something that mimicked Harrison Bergeron, and was thinking of doing a silly "Naruto becomes Naruto Bergeron, gains super powers, and creates a dystopian, 1984/We-ish society". To mimic fics where "x appears in the Ninja World and trains or merges with Naruto, making him more badass". Let's show how awful things would really be from the other side if a Naruto like that did that to the canon cast and not the Sasuke/Sakura/Konoha-bashing versions.

Then I thought, "But usually those (dystopia stories) come with some sort of point, the setting serves that point."

Ah, but the point is, "God Naruto is dumb and completely overrides the underdog qualities of the character!"

But then you're just writing out of spite.

But it's colorful spite!

Another problem is that Harrison Bergeron wasn't "superpowered", he was killed by a shotgun blast IIRC. But its the spirit of the idea, Naruto overthrowing ninja society, the Hokage, and taking over. Plus Naruto Bergeron sounds funny.

edited 10th Jul '15 9:32:55 AM by Soble

I don't necessarily see the problem with the power scaling with the biju cloaks and the EMS.

Though I do see the problem with the whole 'those with connections to the Otsusuki are uber powerful' thing. Since it'd be nicer to see other characters being awesome, kinda why I want to watch The Last since I hear both Lee and Hinata (although she has Ostsusuki connections) are awesome in that film.

Still, absurd power levels are what I kinda come in expecting when I start reading this. Especially when the author is a DBZ fan.

You don't see the problem with the cloaks?

But the problem is quite evident if you actually look at it.

It's not an issue of the maximum powerlevel in the setting.

The main issue is that it accidentally made Konoha infinitely more incompetent than it was before the cloaks were a thing that Naruto could learn to use willingly and effectively. It made everyone infinitely dumber.

And then there's the fact that it makes Naruto so incredibly overpowered that it necessitates outrageously overpowered villains to present a threat, which resulted in Madara and Kaguya being as absurdly powerful as they were.

It's not powerlevel scaling that's the issue. It's escalation. This manga suffered from the same problem Dragon Ball did, except where Dragon Ball had the power increases becoming increasingly faster over the entire period of the manga's run, Naruto had a fairly steady curve until the sudden and insane spike of the War Arc. Basically, it's suffering from a problem DBZ had, only Kishimoto managed to screw up even worse than Toriyama did.

And of course, there's the fact that it's free power. It's void of consequences. You don't have to lose anything to use it.

The earlier versions of the cloaks had downsides.

The Mangekyo Sharingan made you go blind.

But Kishimoto forgot that great power comes at great cost and gave his characters massive upgrades to their already powerful abilities for free, which made them cheaper. It's sad to see something that we usually say is the realm of shitty fanfiction be so everpresent in one of the most popular manga out there, huh?

edited 10th Jul '15 3:16:25 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

In fairness, it seems like no one in Konoha knows how to train a jinchuuriki and prepare them to control the power, in fact Kumo seems to be the only ones with any idea.

Hell, the one guy who tried to teach Naruto to control his power nearly died in the process and he was one of Konoha's strongest.

Which makes sense why Yamato suggest Naruto learn to fight without relying on it since, honestly no one knows how to train a jinchuuriki. Especially when the biju happens to be the strongest of them all and its implied the stronger the biju, the harder to control.

@Escalation: although it spiked in the war. It did build it up somewhat, since we'd seen what a person with the Rinnegan could to, who was weaker than the sage, and how the nine tails was strong enough to break out of the creation of a planetoid before reaching full strength along with the whole story of the the Sage of Six Paths and the Ten tails.

edited 10th Jul '15 3:30:36 PM by Archivist10

That's because everyone was too stupid to ever even consider the idea of not being a jackass to the Kyuubi.

You know, give it a reason to not flatten Konoha the moment it gets out of Naruto, particularly considering you're running out of people capable of sealing it.

edited 10th Jul '15 6:02:28 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

There's a really obvious and really easy way to turn Naruto into a perfect jinchuriki without the falls of truth and have him get on well with Kurama, just requisition Shisui's Sharingan from Danzo's face and have him koatataksumakkiblahblah the tailed beast they all think is a horrible monster.

Though this does require either Danzo to not be a selfish little bitch or Hiruzen to not be an idiot.

I wouldn't trust Danzo anywhere close to Kurama. Seeing as he'd make it loyal to himself rather than the Hokage.

Plus, there's nothing which implies Hiruzen was aware of Danzo's eye collection.

edited 11th Jul '15 6:17:05 AM by Archivist10

If Kotoamatsukami isn't permanent, though, all you're achieving is pissing it off EVEN FURTHER.

No, the best option is to try and find a way to get along with the Kyuubi so it doesn't just instantly nuke your village the very moment it's free.

Particularly because, again, there's a limited amount of people who can seal it and an even more limited amount of people they can seal it in.

edited 11th Jul '15 6:20:48 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

I did say Danzo would have to not be a shitter and Hiruzen would have to not be an idiot. At any rate, Itachi could just tell him about it and he could execute Danzo for going behind his back and having all the Uchiha killed and get it then.

But it is, that was why it was such a coveted, powerful genjutsu. Itachi himself was going to permanently enslave Sasuke to Konoha.

It's an easy, foolproof plan.

We don't know if it is. It's never been tested. People just assume that it is permanent. Admittedly, Itachi can never be wrong in a Kishimoto-written story, so it probably is permanent, but they couldn't know that.

Yeah, this is one of those things where when the story ends and the mind slave technique that everyone thinks is permanent hasn't been shown to not be permanent I'm just going to assume it's permanent.

Easier said than done seeing as Kurama by then had become very bitter and angry.

Plus, as far as nearly everyone knew, the biju were just rampaging monster with some level of sentience, and said sentience seemed to imply they were dicks since they all would jump at any chance to take over their host's body, not that I can blame them.

Well they are for the most part NOT treating Naruto as a weapon and as for training a jinchuuriki well most village seem to go with the ideal of let's mistreat the jinchuurikis.

Also the tailed beasts are just that beasts the only person who might of interacted with it a lot said all you need is to be filled with love.

I don't interact with dogs all that much, but I've noticed they possess a certain amount of sentience. I have also been led to believe that if you kick a dog often or for no reason, it's bound to grow bitter and angry. And a particularly large dog would be prone to bite your leg off, or something.

Not sure how this can apply to Kurama or other bijuu, since they are not dogs but some chakra-creatures... I'm not sure how this can be relevant to jinchuuriki, either...

edited 11th Jul '15 8:28:17 AM by TheNobody

The tailed beasts are pretty much just a human consciousness shoved into a huge monster body.

that is true but I don't think anyone really knows this expect from kumo who are the most militaristic or something I can't really remember.

Well, most ninja seem to be aware that they are sentient on some level since they assume that the biju can understand them.

It's in the Evil Overlord List. If you've got a supremely powerful creature under your control or captivity, treat it with kindness and care so that when it does inevitably get free, it will not instantly turn on you.

Even if they believe that the Kyuubi is an animal, it doesn't make sense for them to not try anything to get it to stop trying to flatten Konoha (which is very much within its abilities and the list of people that can stop it from doing so grows shorter every day).

I'm not even talking about how they handled Naruto, because that is unforgivable levels of stupidity.

Most of that is the fault of retcons. At first the nine tails was a natural disaster that turned up out of nowhere and decided to flatten Konoha. Then it was a self described ball of malice and power. Then it was sealed inside Kushina and Mito who could both talk with it. Then he was just a giant tsundere all along.

At first it was a natural disaster. Then it was an entity that could clearly reason. Then it was one of nine such beings.

While it's true that they're retcons... it doesn't change the fact that the retcons made everyone dumb by complete accident.

So... Remember the Sasuke Retrieval arc? What would happen, theoretically, if Shikamaru somehow learned at least the general abilities of his enemies beforehand? Please, assume that, for whatever reason, he cannot reveal this information to his superiors.

Nothing much would change, to be quite honest.

Shikamaru's supposta be a super genius, but he's kinda dumb, like everyone else.

What you should ask is: What would change if Shikamaru were actually smart as he's supposed to be.

And I can tell you right now that the simplest, quickest, easiest and most effective plan, IE the one the lazy ass Shikamaru would fall back to, is to simply dogpile on the enemies and quickly kill them so that the group can progress as a group instead of separating and getting picked off one by one.

Interesting note: Shikamaru's plan would've been a massive failure and probably gotten him, Kiba and Naruto killed were it not for the aid of the Sand Siblings, which he could not have possibly predicted. And it's fairly likely that Neji and Chouji would've died as well, even though IIRC they actually won their fights on their own.

edited 19th Jul '15 9:03:57 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

The problem is Shikamaru is supposed to be way smarter than Kishimoto actually is.

separating and getting picked off one by one.

And the problem with this is this is basically how Shounen conventionally works, regardless of if it's reasonable or not.

edited 19th Jul '15 9:27:18 AM by NapoleonDeCheese