All Purpose Naruto Fanfiction Thread

@Hyper: Didn't one of them have a Sayo episode everyone recommends?

@Squash: If it helps, easily half the class never shows any serious interest in him, either because they've got other love interests or plain don't give a shit. It's still statistically improbable, but it's at least a step up from the "everyone with ovaries falls for the main character" thing you get sometimes.

edited 28th Jan '15 5:02:09 PM by rikalous

Yes, they're a bunch of quirky but mostly kind hearted people.

So?

They're still teenaged girls.

And Naruto is still a teenaged boy.

Naruto would flat out not be interesting to the grand majority and the grand majority of them flat out would not be interesting to him either. You say that if he interacts with them frequently, they'd become friends, while utterly forgetting that there's no reason why they would interact frequently. Particularly because both parties would just not be interested in the other.

Crack Pairings, while usually making some twisted degree of sense, don't generally need to be logically explainable. However, up until now, you weren't claiming those were crack pairings, you're claiming that those are pairings that could legitimately happen.

edited 28th Jan '15 5:06:09 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Since when has that been a fucking requirement for a harem to form?

Are you just trying to make up reasons why characters won't interact?!

I know I'm making up things too just by talking about this crossover but still, yours feels even more forced. Because they feel out of character, Naruto helps his friends! This is basics 101.

Naruto becomes friends with them. Hangs out with the, finds out Negi wants to find his dad and get stronger. What would Naruto do?!

He would fucking help them!

edited 28th Jan '15 5:09:03 PM by Archivist10

Unless the society they live in was based on Arabic cultures and fit much more closer to the traditional harem instead of the bastardized version.

YMMV, The Last Naruto is pretty attractive. If not for his shitty hairstyle then he'd be up there.

edited 28th Jan '15 5:31:55 PM by Karnality

Of course him being interesting to the harem is a requirement for the harem to form. I can't believe I need to spell that out for you.

"Naruto becomes friends with them"

Except he doesn't. Because he has no interest in them. And they don't befriend him. Because they have no interest in him.

You seem to think that they'd automatically become friends just because they're in the same universe. This is not true. Naruto doesn't spontaneously decide to become friends with a bunch of teenage girls going to middle school.

He'd never find out Negi wants to find Nagi. He'd never find out they have all sorts of problems he could potentially help with.

It's a common joke to call Naruto Dumb Blond Ninja Jesus, but it's incorrect because Naruto isn't some sort of wanderer going around doing good. He's not going to go out seeking people who have problems he can help with. As you can see when you consider the fact that Naruto doesn't give a flying shit about all the Samurai that Sasuke killed, or their families. Because they are not his precious people.

Naruto is not particularly selfish, but he is not a saint travelling around the world bringing order to chaos, law to the lawless and good tidings to those in desperate need. That was never his goal, that is not his motivation, and that is not who he is.

In universe, Naruto is never described as particularly good looking. Sure, he has fangirls... but he probably has those fangirls because he's a famous hero. He only has them after he's recognized as the world savior.

edited 28th Jan '15 6:04:08 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Hm, so either the strongest in the cast and no harem, or the weakest in the cast and a harem? Is that just so that there's some element of the protagonist that the reader/viewer can empathize with? I mean, maybe having more than one wish fulfillment aspect would make it too implausible to really fantasize about... or at least it'd be harder to see it as potentially achievable.

And it'd kill off a ton of fanfiction too, I'd assume.

Obligatory caveat that this is all generalization and there's plenty of stuff out there where, for instance, the main character isn't identifiably the strongest or the weakest in the cast. And that's not counting the times when a character starts out the weakest member of the cast and powerlevels to become the strongest by the end.

I got it!

Kushimaru could be considered a Lancer, since the Nuibari is basically a long needle and could function as a lance.

Listen if Naruto becomes friends with them, then he'll most likely end up hanging around with them. It's been shown that he doesn't like being alone for long periods of time.

Urgh, why do we bother? We're not going to convince eachother are we?

edited 29th Jan '15 7:59:14 AM by Archivist10

We might have a better shot at convincing each other if you were to actually read my posts and answer accordingly. You are not doing so.

Well, either that or you just don't get it.

This here is the main problem you have. If Naruto becomes friends with them. If.

You keep assuming Naruto would become friends out of nowhere with them when he simply would not. I've said this several times and you keep ignoring it, repeating that above phrase over and over again as if it means something. It doesn't. Naruto wouldn't becoem friends with them just because they're in the same area.

Naruto himself would not go out of his way to make friends with them. Far as he knows they're just a bunch of civilians. 3-A wouldn't go out of their way to befriend him. Far as they know he's just some obnoxious dumbass.

I said before that the whole situation with Evangeline would lead to him getting involved even if Konoemon ordered everyone to stay out of it.

This is like a rule of xovers, the characters will meet and become intertwined in a story.

edited 29th Jan '15 8:54:52 AM by Archivist10

No. It wouldn't. He wouldn't know it's happening and he wouldn't be allowed to interfere even if he did. And Naruto would back down if they flat out told him that they're testing Negi's ability to respond to problems. The mess with Evangeline is far less dangerous to Negi than the Chunin Exams were to Naruto and it's happening under controlled circumstances.

Not to mention, Naruto would not be on the girls' side in the first place. I don't know why you assume he would be. There is no reason to keep him there and lots of reasons why he shouldn't be there, starting with the fact that he is male and not a teacher.

It's also not a rule of crossovers, it's called narrative convenience, it happens on all stories. The thing is, it has to make sense. And Naruto meeting 3-A and interacting with them does not. Of course, a writer who just wants his self insert wearing Naruto's skin to pork a bunch of teenaged girls won't care that it doesn't make sense, just like how they don't care about how their immortal asshole is not Naruto in any way shape or form except name, but then again, that kind of writer tends to write shit.

We know it's narrative convenience, but you must have an explanation other than "the author wills it to happen".

edited 29th Jan '15 8:59:51 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

I really doubt he'd not notice the energy signatures flying about the city.

The Alliance can't keep him out of a war and I doubt that these people they could keep him out of this. I doubt Takahata can do any more than delay him. And I'm sure Naruto could convince him to him go like he does with other people.

I find it laughable that Konoemon would give an explanation for his acions.

Also there's a big difference between this and the Chunin exams. Naruto did the exams of his own choice. He was willing to go in there with all the risks.

This is outright manipulation which I think we've condemned several times on the Negima forums. And I doubt Naruto would agree with them making decisions like that without the kid's consent.

Hell, even if he understand their points I doubt he'll agree.

And so what if he's not in the girl's side, he can always leave the boys side and head to where Negi and Eva were, not like they were trying to be subtle.

edited 29th Jan '15 9:11:11 AM by Archivist10

In Mahora, where there's a gazillion other magical people?

The Alliance couldn't keep him out of a war which they were losing. A war that Naruto had a personal interest in. This is nowhere near the same level of urgency, and this is none of his business. Naruto is not a Knight Errant, wandering around doing good.

I find it laughable that you even bring that up. What, you think Konoemon wouldn't explain the situation if Naruto wanted to get involved? If Naruto's at any kind of level to make any difference, then he's probably on a level in which they can't keep him out of it with force, so of course Konoemon would explain the situation so that Naruto doesn't go and do something stupid to ruin their test.

Risks that are not present for Negi, not to mention Negi is undertaking this test willingly. This is the purpose for him coming to Mahora, to be tested to become a Magister.

Yes it is manipulation. Just about the same as Naruto himself was manipulated into entering into the chunin exams by Kakashi. You know how it goes?

"Hey. You want a promotion? Well you gotta do this."

That's the extent of manipulation in both cases.

Why do you think he'd disagree? It's not even a debate. To Naruto, this kind of test is nothing out of the ordinary. He took a worse one without being much older than Negi was, and being a lot less qualified to make his way through it than Negi is through his own.

Except he wouldn't. Because in Mahora, magical people running around is nothing out of the ordinary, so he would have no reason why he would spontaneously go out, go across half the city and then interfere in a fight that isn't his. This is like Naruto spontaneously standing up and running halfway across Konoha just to interrupt an academy spar.

edited 29th Jan '15 9:46:05 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Naruto wasn't manipulated into signing up for the chunin exams, he was told that if wanted to be promoted then he had to take the exam. He chose to go into danger.

Negi on the other hand is satisfied with just being a teacher (for the most part) and having everything safe. Yet they put him into this situation that is frankly cruel because well there's no reason for it.

The Naruto world has had it forced to train ninjas since they're children, the Negima world doesn't show that need especially on Earth. I can understand teaching him how to do magic and take responsibility, but why go through the trouble of forcing him to fight when he doesn't want to.

Also, they don't know whether Eva wouldn't drink hi dry to escape. Sure she's shown to not liking killing women and children, but she's been trapped there for fifteen years, who knows what goes through her head.

And seriously with only Negi and Eva fighting and Naruto (assuming he's been placed as part of the security) knowing about the attacks on students would intervene regardless of orders.

This is stupid logic. Naruto can shrug off things like talking animals and magic but not a fight happening in the middle of a blackout with a supposed vampire on the loose!

edited 29th Jan '15 10:03:19 AM by Archivist10

Oh, yes, he was manipulated. It's the same if I were to tell you that I would give you something you want if you did something I want you to do. It's ridiculously basic, and the most widely used form of manipulation.

You're, of course and as usual for you, wrong. Negi is in Mahora for the express purpose of becoming a magister, that is his objective in Mahora. Sure, he likes being a teacher, but it's ultimately secondary to his goal of becoming a Magister, which he sees as a necessary step in the search of his father, presumably due to the freedom to move around as he pleases that it'd afford him.

Negi is doing this willingly, because he wants to do it, and he's doing it at such an early age because he is a prodigy and a genius. I also remind you that him being able to take care of himself is vital, because he happens to be a high profile target.

Evangeline doesn't kill women or children, and she also loves Nagi. Evangeline is not stupid enough to believe that Nagi wouldn't murder the fuck out of her or at least utterly loathe her forever if he learned that she killed his son. They have nothing to fear from Evangeline. Not to mention, she could've ended their fight any time she wished and was just playing around the entire time, only fighting at a level slightly above Negi's even though she could've just curbstomped him two seconds flat without even using her magic.

Naruto would not be placed as part of security. What part of 'he's an untested unknown' don't you get yet? You don't trust some random guy who shows up to guard your people. Not to mention, that still means absolutely nothing. Far as he knows, it's just two people training. People doing so at night where they can't be seen wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary at Mahora.

So he likely wouldn't know about the attacks on the students, and even if he did, he wouldn't connect two mages fighting to a vampire attacking people. This is also not an urgent life threatening situation, this is a controlled test.

Stupid logic? Where? Wait, it's something you disagree with, so it has to be stupid. Dunning-Kruger, is that you? Ah, but I kid, I kid.

You're assuming Naruto would know that there's a vampire on the loose in the first place. He wouldn't. 'cause nobody would tell him. Because they don't want an untested unknown mucking around with their stuff.

Hell, they wouldn't want him in Mahora.

Anya is also going through the same training but she hasn't been put through anything similar.

And if they want to give Negi protection or get him ready then FUCKING TRAIN HIM!!

They've got some of the best mages and fighters at their disposal and yet not once not once do they think to have any of them to train him. They just et him do stuff that has nothing to do with his training, hell the whole library island thing has nothing to do with his magical training.

And if they wanted to test Negi's fighting abilities then have Takahata or any other teacher train with him.

In Naruto Kakashi at least had the decency to give Naruto a Boring, but Practical teacher to help him when he was busy training Sasuke.

In Mahora...they're just dicks. They give this kid a position that no kid should be forced into, let him just wander around aimlessly doing stuff unrelated to mage training, allow him to be attacked by a vampire, continuously manipulate him and not once actually think of HELPING HIM!

Also, I repeat; Naruto being there as hired muscle from the elemental nations. Of course they'd let him know about stuff like vampire attacks.

edited 29th Jan '15 11:06:27 AM by Archivist10

@rikalous: I'm not saying the various Negima anime are all 100% undiluted crap, I'm saying they're vastly inferior to the manga.

@archivist: Negi has already been trained. He is now being tested. When things go beyond the tests (like when Chao nearly revealed magic to the world), the other teachers have shown a willingness to step in.

As for Anya not getting those kind of extreme tests: that's because she failed her earlier tests, so they stopped testing her. Anya is not ready to be a Magistra Magi.

edited 29th Jan '15 11:19:15 AM by Hyp3rB14d3

He's been trained in basic spells, he said himself he snuck into the library and selftaugth combat spells. So the teachers at Mahora should do the first logical thing and teach him to become a magister magi

But hey these are the guys who think giving a ten year old a job as a teacher will be able to keep their secret safe. So logic cleary doesn't work in their head.

You know it's bad when the world that has child soldiers comes off as less abusive to children.

What tests?

Also the whole Chao thing, that was them saving their own asses.

edited 29th Jan '15 11:21:29 AM by Archivist10

I'm done with you. I'll leave ya with the parting shot that one of us is right, and it ain't you.

@Archivist10: The tests was stated to have failed back when she was in London. Where her testing was taking place. Instead of Japan, where Negi's testing was taking place.

And I really should get to watching it when I figure out which one it is, so I'm not relying on hearsay.

Not entirely, he could be supervising him to make sure he doesn't get into trouble. Hell, maybe Nagi asked him to do it and he's been watching over Negi for the past ten years. He could be part of an exchange, and guarding the tree in Mahora since it is super magical and shit, then he meets a member of 3-A and through them meets Negi and gets involved.

I don't care about the rest of the argument, you just seemed to be making an absolute statement there and I didn't agree with it.

Naruto supervising Negi? Yeah. Sure. I'm pretty sure I saw some pigs flying just now. As for Nagi asking him to do it... Uh, no. Ain't happening. Guy didn't ask any of his longtime friends and brothers in arms to do it. Why would he ask some random dood? Part of an exchange? What exchange? Whyever would there ever be an exchange of any sort between Mahora and Konoha? Again, Mahora doesn't need additional muscle, and Konoha has no jurisdiction over Mahora.

Thing is, while of course someone could think up of a way to get it to happen, it's not so easy to do so in a sensible way, and hell, I haven't seen even one single crossover between Naruto and Negima that doesn't have Naruto meeting 3-A being horribly forced.

Then again, nearly all of them involve the same basic premise of "Super Old Immortal Uber Badass Naruto Who Acts Closer To Sasuke Comes To Mahora And Gets A Harem", and the authors of those are clearly writing those one handed, so, whatever.

edited 29th Jan '15 1:23:51 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Negima's premise isn't sensible in the first place so...

Its just fanfic dude. No need to treat it so seriously.

Naruto can meet anyone at Chao Bao Xi, as long as they serve ramen.

Or he could meet Ku by encounterong one of her street brawls.

Also could make that Naruto met Negi on that snowy night when he and Jiraiya were passing by during the training period.

edited 29th Jan '15 2:06:02 PM by Archivist10