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#141026: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:16:48 AM

Trump's scandals are real scandals. Clinton's aren't. Moreover, the latter have been hashed out way more times already than is sane or reasonable, so bringing them up during the debates is pointless.

edited 30th Sep '16 7:17:21 AM by Fighteer

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#141027: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:19:30 AM

Plus, he wasn't dragged into anything, that happened because he wouldn't move on when his lies were pointed out. He brought it on himself.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#141028: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:22:25 AM

[up][up] And? Why should any of that prevent them from being brought up anyway?

edited 30th Sep '16 7:22:33 AM by sgamer82

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#141029: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:22:33 AM

Ten things that Trump could (but probably won't) do to win the next debate.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/opinions/10-ways-trump-could-win-second-debate-dantonio/index.html

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#141030: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:24:20 AM

[up][up] Journalistic integrity. Which Lester Holt demonstrated; while Matt Lauer did not.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#141031: Sep 30th 2016 at 7:35:14 AM

We've all heard about the thing with Cuba by now, I take it. Kurt Eichenwald apparently tweeted out a document proving it.

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#141032: Sep 30th 2016 at 8:16:54 AM

[up] At this point I'm skeptical anything will do Trump any lasting harm.

edited 30th Sep '16 8:17:26 AM by CaptainCapsase

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#141033: Sep 30th 2016 at 8:40:24 AM

[up][up]I just read about it with a quick Google Search. Fuck the emails, this is worthy of an actual scandal. If this doesn't get around by the next debate, then Clinton needs to bring it up, because even it doesn't end him, it will at least put him on the spot and hold him at gunpoint. It's a great weapon if nothing else, and it might just even make the emails look like tiptoeing through the daisies by comparison. (Keyword being 'might', unfortunately.)

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#141034: Sep 30th 2016 at 8:46:09 AM

[up] It's no worse than any of the other horrible Trump scandals, so I think it'll probably just blend into the background. That's part of the problem; so many things that should have been fatal to a candidate were simply ignored by the electorate.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#141035: Sep 30th 2016 at 8:55:17 AM

His hardcore supporters don't care. They want their damn revolution.

edited 30th Sep '16 8:55:39 AM by speedyboris

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#141036: Sep 30th 2016 at 8:55:29 AM

Eh, the press has been failing to do its job in a big way, but it's also been overwhelmed with the sheer volume of Trump scandals — you could devote an entire 24/7 network to discussing them if you applied the same standard that has been used to discuss Clinton's fake scandals.

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#141037: Sep 30th 2016 at 9:04:20 AM

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore has been suspended without pay for the remainder of his term for his order to stop all same sex marriages in the state back in January.

edited 30th Sep '16 9:05:22 AM by tclittle

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#141038: Sep 30th 2016 at 9:06:18 AM

Good. Hopefully people can actually get married without complications there soon.

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#141039: Sep 30th 2016 at 9:11:20 AM

That's definitely a step in the right direction, especially because it was the Alabama Court of the Judiciary who made this call. The federal government didn't have to step in. Alabama's state justice system did it on their own.

That bodes well for hopes of real change.

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#141040: Sep 30th 2016 at 9:51:21 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/30/gop-blocks-probes-into-trump-russia-ties.html

GOP is actively blocking investigations into Trump and his Russian cronies, but still want to investigate Hillarys emails?!

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#141041: Sep 30th 2016 at 9:54:16 AM

Well that just about says it all doesn't it? Fucking hell, can the GOP really be working with the Russians?

Like it'd be one thing for Trump but for the actual Republican party?

Oh really when?
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#141043: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:00:42 AM

So now the red party is working with the reds? I'd joke more but honestly this is just fucked up.

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#141044: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:01:19 AM

[up][up][up]If that were true, it'd be like Star Trek VI made manifest. Just swap out the Federation with the USA and the Republicans, switch the Klingons with the Russians, and you're set. All we need now is for Putin to start quoting Shakespeare and we're golden.tongue

edited 30th Sep '16 10:02:00 AM by kkhohoho

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#141045: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:03:07 AM

[up][up] Russia has ceased to be "the Reds" for a long time.

edited 30th Sep '16 10:03:15 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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#141046: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:03:11 AM

I don't think the GOP is actively working with the Russians. They're just treating the threat of potential treason as a partisan issue. Their response to accusations of Trump being tied to Russia is to go, "PFFT, no, that's silly, those are just election-year Democrat lies. Let's not give this completely unfounded rumor any dignity by investigating it."

Trump, however, may be actively working with the Russians. But his supporters don't want to believe that.

edited 30th Sep '16 10:03:30 AM by TobiasDrake

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#141047: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:03:41 AM

Stuff like this makes me wish we had access to the RNC emails. Blatantly working for the Russians is a far bigger story than people not being too thrilled about Bernie.

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#141048: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:05:30 AM

[up][up]The problem is that it contradicts the standard "if you have nothing to hide, then just reveal it!" logic used by all candidates at all stages of the election.

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#141049: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:06:20 AM

Don't be silly Clarste. That only applies to Democrats.

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#141050: Sep 30th 2016 at 10:10:23 AM

As noted, every candidate says that. While secretly hiding their stuff.

The RNC has thrown all their support behind Trump at this point. Despite murmurings of letting him drop, they've decided to put all their eggs in his basket. They don't just not want the public to find out that he might have ties to Russia. They don't want to know that themselves.

A federal probe is a lose-lose scenario for them. If there's no fire behind the smoke, then they've still discredited Trump by launching the investigation in the first place. People will hear that there's an investigation and give no shits about the result. That's an atmosphere they, themselves, cultivated with the Clinton email investigation.

If there IS a fire, conversely, then it effectively invalidates the candidate whose popularity they are desperately clinging to. It would murder them on election day.

So the only solution they can find is to do what Republicans have been doing for years: plug their ears and try to scream until the inconvenient questions go away. Keep repressing investigations and stonewalling the system. Make bids for time and hope the American people will just forget eventually.

The entire conservative platform effectively runs on stalling progress and buying as much time as they can to keep the future from happening. Time is their weapon.

edited 30th Sep '16 10:13:09 AM by TobiasDrake

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